Im sure im off topic here , but when ppl INSIST on calling a fireball an “aduken” i cringe up like im on my way back into the womb…
QFT:( That’s why ryu needs a trade ultra
How dumb are you? Why would Sagat need to jump at all? He has the fastest fireball in the game, no reason to jump over projectiles. Yay you’re an idiot.
If you’re really quiet and cocentrate on reading, you’d see that I listed only 3 ways Ryu could ideally land an ultra on a good Sagat. Probably only 2 of them will work in Super. If you believe j.mp, EX tatsu, EX fireball works on good Sagats like a charm, you’re just dumb and no worth replying to.
Why do you keep bringing up footsies? Sagat doesn’t even need footsies. All he does is sit back and spam Tiger shots. When he’s close he still has safe options. A good Sagat mixes up high and low Tiger shots. Ryu can’t duck low tiger shots and he can’t always react to them with tatsu. If he even thinks about jumping he’s gonna eat Kara TU.
You’re such a child and don’t even understand the point I was making when I was talking about Ryu. I’m not a Ryu-sympathizer like you so badly want to believe. I’ve argued to take trade > Ultra out. Stop trying to talk down on me if you don’t even know what you’re talking about, thanks.
Just so you can understand son, I dislike Ryu, I agree with Trade Ultra getting the fuck out of SF4. All I’m arguing is that Ryu suffered more nerfs than Sagat did, hence giving Sagat an even bigger advantage than he originally had.
Being able to
Cross up across the map with the hurricane kick
which is very easy to avoid or counter
The rest ill let you guys make up
He has the fastest fireball in the game, and when he uses it…bam ryu cancels into his super. The dumb kid is easily tricked into thinking he’s the smartest in the class.
Yea man…combo’s NEVER work on good sagats. Look at Daigo play against mago…does he ever use combos???
lol…am i being trolled? This thread is AWESOME for comedy!!! That’s just…soooo stupid. It’s like you’ve never even played against sagat before, or even watched him play.
Yea man…before ryu had maybe a .5 disadvantage and now he probably goes even with sagat at worse…that’s just horrible and i’m totally unable to hold back my tears for tier whores
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No big deal guys. Im sure all you Ryu players will just learn the match-ups and get the same amount of wins as before. Trade ultra wasn’t that big a part of his game right?
good. you’re the first poster to reach the last stage.
The five stages of SSF4 grief:
1)Denial-“Noooooo! this can’t be happening to me. they took away ryu’s trade to ultra. i refuse to believe it.”
2)Anger-“why! why! why! why did ryu get nerfed harder than Sagat!?”.
3)Bargaining- “Seth, if you give ryu back his trade to ultra. i’ll go to church every sunday”
4)Depression- “Capcom hates me and ryu.”
5)Acceptance- oh well, maybe it won’t be so bad. at least, i’m still better off than el furete.
I wish lol. I played sakura in reg.
Sagat doesn’t need footsies against Ryu? What crack are you smoking? Gimme some of dat.
takes a toke on kazuyas magic cig
cough cough…
Yea like…ryu totally needs his trade SRK just to SURVIVE in this game man cough
Ryu’s footsies and links don’t mean shit if he doesn’t have all 12 ways to land ultra man…why you do dis capcaaaaalm!!!
jab,jab,jab srk FADC ultra…ryu will be fine
Point being that “costing meter” doesn’t make something not viable. It just makes it not free. People talking about FADC being a “get out of jail free card”, that’s wrong. If it costs meter (and half of it at that), it’s not free. Saying we’ll hardly see Angry Scar because it costs meter? Not necessarily. And regardless of whether it’s a compensation that works out to Sagat’s overall advantage or not, at least it’s something.
Besides, with his normal Tiger Shots and Tiger Knees, he’s not that reliant on EX meter anyway.
I’m hoping the rest of the cast that got nerfed get something. Though it sucks for me, since Ryu’s my favorite character and permanent main, he’s not even my main concern. What’s up with Cammy and Gen? Likewise, I hope they get something to make up for apparently getting the shaft.
LOL, it’s not about that. Maybe they’ll still be competitive characters, maybe not. We’ll see. But it’s not about having to “work a little harder”. If I just didn’t want to work hard, I’d just drop Ryu competitively, and pick up the next big top tier character that everyone complains about in Super. A lot of characters didn’t seem to get what they needed, a few got nerfed unexpectedly, Ryu got nerfed more than he needed to be. Sure, that’s a minor, or good thing if all you wanted was for Ryu to be made worse. But if you wanted a more balanced game than SFIV? So far, I’m not seeing it.
All in all, it doesn’t solve your problem. Instead of Sagat and Ryu, you’ll just have a new top that you’ll complain “doesn’t have to work hard enough”, to beat you. My vote’s on Dudley.
Shrugs As for me, I’m just going to keep doing what I’ve been doing, and as long as Ryu’s matchups are still all near even, I’ll win if I play better than my opponent, and lose if I don’t. That’s the type of character Ryu is. Hopefully his nerfs aren’t drastic enough to change that.
I would love to see vids of good Sagats frequently getting caught with all “12” ways into ultra. Why do you pull such numbers out of your ass?
You don’t understand, he’s terrible. If the easiest character to use in the game isn’t high tier there is no hope for him.
And a lot of people, I immagine.
At any rate, results speak for themselves. Its safe to say capcom knows what they’re doing (not entirely, but still much, much more than the noob in question) thus one of the most powerful characters in the game got nerfed. Your pathetic arguments have now been shut down on all fronts. And you still need to get a life.
I still like Ryu as a very strong character even with his nerfs. On the podcast people said they believe Ryu is still strong even with not getting anything new. I mean what more do you want when you have great footsies, strong fireball game and buff ass link combos that lead to untech knockdowns?
If they took away shoto c.mk I can see the bitching but it’s just not the case. It’s not like DP trading was HUUUUUGE anyway, and if it’ trades a bit more with meaties when thrown late, just C. HP instead.
cr.mk ex fireball ultra(corner)
cr. mk ex fireball fadc ultra
short/jabs DP fadc ultra
ex tatsu option select in corner ultra
focus ultra
trade dp ultra
safe jump OS DP fadc ultra
walk up DP fadc ultra(pro)
dash punch cr. mp cr.fp DP ultra
super hits close ultra
j.mp ultra
jab dp ultra
Ohhh I like the last one, it’s easy and full ultra damage : D
Mexican uppercut FTW.