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Its 5.5 because of all the random Jesus kicks!

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whoops, corrected.

i still think rufus beats blanka.

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2nd player Rufus has advantage due to positioning. lol

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hahahah I also think rufus beats blanka, something like 5.5/4.5. Gief is 6-4 in Giefs favor. also Guile is 5.5/4.5 in his favor.

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I dunnno about blanka because honestly never played against a top blanka if there´s any in EU, but guile is a clear 6-4 imo and so is feilong.

Against fei he controls the ground and has good footsies, the best focus in the game. Its impossible to jump fei due to the easy input of flame kick. His wakeup is a gamble, you cannot afford to throw him in wakeup because of hk cw that leads to 300 damage combo or flame kick (and backdash). You cannot cross him up midscreen with dive kick because he gets out for free with cw (c.hp doesnt reach).

On top of that, its very hard to punish his focus at mid range if u dont have ex meter. He has a very good crossup game and his corner rape is worst than dictator´s. If rufus offensive wasnt limited enought, he has u2 (he can also OS it for ex messiah).

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you dont have to rush feilong, you can keep him away, just hit him a few times and then lame it out…thats the hard part, to actually get the life lead. I think its 5-5. Here’s my list, I added comments for each char

Rufus vs ____

Abel-6/4 (Only because he doesnt have a clear answer to rufus rushdown and he needs to keep him out…and Abel sucks at that)

Adon-5/5 (Both characters have safe pressure, so it becomes a matter of who hits more and gets hit less)

Akuma- 5/5 (Rufus has U2, big damage and divekick, akuma has the keepaway and the vortex)

Balrog-5/5 (Rufus needs to bait him, but has enough life to take risks, boxer can keep him out, but 1 wrong guess and its pressure time)

Blanka-6/4 (U2 shuts down blanka, EX messiah kills some of his gimmicks, divekick can beat Electricity on wakeup if well placed)

Cammy-5.5/4.5 (Rufus has more life and hits hard)

Chun li- 6/4 (Chun cant get him off once he gets in)

Cody- 5.5/4.5 (cody has good normals, great AA, decent zoning and frame traps, but he has a hard time dealing with rufus’ pressure)

C. Viper-6/4 (U2 kills her…hard, rufus does big dmg, his divekick kills pretty much everything viper has on wakeup, OS U2 in your divekicks to make it more deadly)

Dan-7/3 (its dan…seriously…but I can say his DP is “ok”, but unlike the rest of the shotos, he cant keep rufus out)

Dee jay-5.5/4.5 (U2 works well vs him though not necesarily better than U1, hard time vs divekick pressure, DJ can keep him out, but he’s not guile)

Dhalsim-6/4 (rufus needs 1 opening, and then it pretty much GG, U2 shuts him down)

Dudley-6/4 (He cant deal with rufus divekick on wakeup and cant jump on rufus)

Honda-5/5 (Honda can keep him out and does big damage, rufus divekick kills his wakeup options, Honda cant hurt rufus if he places his divekicks correctly, he can only use his options to escape, and rufus has to chase him again)

Fuerte-6/4 (U2 kills his mixup, Rufus does big damage, fuerte can be annoying, but with U2 it becomes way easier)

Fei Long-5/5 (Fei has much better groung game and footsies, rufus has to play keepaway if he gets a good life lead, Fei has U2 which counters divekick)

Gen-6/4 (Big damage from rufus, his divekick owns Gen)

Gouken-5.5/4.5 (Counters are annoying, but baitable, U2 works better than U1 here IMO)

Guile-4.5/5.5 (I dont think its THAT bad to be 4/6, once rufus gets in guile has to fear his barrage of crossups, mixups and tick throws, he cant hit rufus with flashkick if he Divekicks at the correct ranges)

Guy-6/4 (U2 again…prevents his elbow nonsense, EX snake strike also does the job)

Hakan-7/3 (He cant keep rufus out, his SPD range is crap unless oiled)

Ibuki-6/4 (U2 kills her vortex and almost all her moves, she cant runaway effectively if rufus has U2)

Juri-6/4 (Juri can zone and run, rufus needs to take risks to get in, but once he’s in…he’s IN, she has low life, rufus has tons of life and does big damage)

Ken-5/5 (both characters have good rushdown and mixup, Rufus divekick kills ken’s DP on wakeup if he hits him in the shoulders, ken has awesome footsies and a mad good kara-throw, ken is also better at rushdown than ryu, but worse at keepaway, which is why this matchup is 5-5, because Rufus will get in)

Makoto-6/4 (She’s just too weak IMO, she has good normals and frame traps, her far MP is boss, but once rufus gets in its over)

M. Bison-4.5/5.5 (Bison has a slight adv here, because of his normals, pressure and run away. U2 again saves the day for Rufus, once rufus gets in its hard for Bipson to do anything, Rufus divekick beats EX PC when perfectly placed)

Rose-6/4 (This is like dhalsim, but not as bad for rose. She can apply pressure and zone, her mixup isnt great, when rufus gets in then it becomes hell for rose, also Rufus’ U2 kills her fireballs and careless Rose’s U2 pressure)

Rufus- Even…duh

Ryu-5/5 (Rufus has a hard time getting in, he needs to bait…hard. Ryu can keep him out and rush him down. If rufus can bait DPs then its even, if not, is 6/4 for Ryu.)

Sagat-4/6 (His zoning is too good, tiger knee kills divekicks, rufus has to be mad patient in this one. Rufus divekick gives sagat a hard time on wakeup)

Sakura-6/4 (She cant keep him out forever, he will eventually get in, and it will be as bad as it is for Makoto, she also has low life, her mixup can get killed by EX messiah)

Seth-5/5 (Both chars have good tools, seth can run, rush, zone and just be gay. Rufus needs only 2 combos to stun him, also U2 restricts Seth game a lot, Seth’s mixup is really good)

T.Hawk-5/5 (Rufus has to play keepaway here, the only reason this is 5/5 is because Hawk doesnt have EX green hand and his footsies are crap)

Vega-6/4 (good normals for vega, great tick throw game, but cant deal with rufus pressure at all)

Zangief 4/6 (zangief has awesome footsies, he’s got EX green hand which rapes any normal rufus can use vs him, if he knocks Rufus down it becomes really hard for rufus. Rufus has decent AAs,as well as good life, if he can play solid and keep away, he can win)

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What fei longs are you playing against? You cannot keep feilong away, he has a lot of high reward low risk options to get in, you cannot just get life lead and turtle it up like you could do against boxer.

Also lol @ rufus having the same advantage over gouken than guile has over him. Rufus DESTROYS gouken in SSFIV due to u2 being broken as fuck in that matchup.

Thawk footsies arent crap btw

Rufus doesnt have advantage against cammy I assure you that, cammy has better mixups, a godlike dp, ambiguous crossups against rufus, better footsies and ex messiah doesnt hit her crouching. 5-5 at best.

I more or less agree with the rest of your list (dan is not 7-3, balrog and dictator is 6-4, dudley 5-5), but imo you theoryfight too much.

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I do think thawk footsies arent that good, is when footsies like zangief’s hit me that I get worried, because thawk cant knock you down off a normal, gief can (well not in AE). Almost everything I wrote was off exp only (maybe the cammy’s ive played arent that good then…)

how come rufus destroys gouken? The goukens Ive played make it hard to pressure them, maybe Im not playing the matchup, but IMO gouken can give rufus a hard time.

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maybe its just me, but against guile, i just dont respect that fucker. perhaps vanilla guile is still lingering in my mind, but the matchup still feels the same.

work your way in vs his sonic booms and rush his ass down. he still feels free after u get in on him. quicker charge time and rufus stamina nerf hurts this matchup a little, but all i know is when i get in, guile is gonna die.

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Guile IS free once you’re in (not as free as dhalsim though), but good guiles know how to make the process of getting in painful and annoying. I think the matchup is gonna be either 5-5 or 6-4 Rufus in AE due to guile’s damage nerf.

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Do you see how much U2 SHuts down people ? Im kind of glad rufus isnt a popular character so at least people will still fear u2 till console release of AE

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Is one of the best ultras in the game, I was sure it was going to get nerfed.

Diveman against gouken, once you got u2 the match is pretty much over. At mid range he has 0 tools to deal with it. No good pokes, no walk speed, fireballs are gone, demon flip shenanigans are gone, jumping and neutral jumping is gone, palm is gone.

BBT just makes gouken free, there is nothing he can do that you cannot react with u2. If you OS his wakeup the only thing he can do is counters, if you block guess what? u2 in his face or big punish and save it so he is still useless.

Once you have life lead and u2 , unless you mess up he cannot do anything about it. Add to that that gouken already dies to rushdown and you dont even need u2 to kill him, imo its one of the most one-sided matchups for rufus.

I play a lot against one of the best goukens in EU, and we both agree the matchup is broken right now. Having an ultra should never shut down a character as hard as it does to gouken, the only one that comes close is viper but she still has some tools to deal with it, gouken has none.

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You guys probably have never played a good Dan. Dan vs Rufus is 5/5 or 5.5/4.5 Dans favor.

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troll detected.

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theres no such thing as a good dan… STFU… Rufus is 7/3 MAYBE 8/2.

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For those that think Guile is free, I ask that I see some replays of these matches.

Dan can be random and win. Plus his hop kick thing is annoying for Rufus. I never really took time to think about counter strats for him.

Gouken is pretty bad for Gouken. It was 6/4 in Vanilla, it didn’t change if not worse.

Both Gief and THawk has good footsie tools against Rufus. Thawk has more range in his footsie tools but leads to lesser damage and no mixup. But he has a more reliable antiair. Basically whoever can manage with the life lead better wins the match. Also both sides do not have a clear cut way to getting that lead to begin with. That means a 5-5 for me

Cammy match in cammy favor because she has better footsies. Her footsies leads to damaging combos where Rufus just gets a poke hit. Ambiguous crossup are ridiculous. There might be an unblockable on Rufus. EX messiah whiffs so her mixups are even more ridiculous. And the biggest reason she beats Rufus is her DP. Her Dp can also lead to big damage or another Dp with wakeup pressure. She can dp on reaction to Rufus jump at the optimum range of combat for both chars which is around cammy’s c.mk range. She can OS c.hp for Rufus pressure. I know some might think of counter hit bait, but cammy’s can also do OS DP.

Also, viper matchup is tough for me to figure out the exact number to it. Some good vipers I can basically 10-0, but then there’s some vipers I go even or they beat me. One thing I’m not sure of is how everyone is using U2 on their top vipers. When I use U2 on them, I either get baited hard or I don’t get a clean shot to use it.

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why does it matter and what difference does this make?

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It matters because we can see from your point of view how the matchup is played.

It makes a difference because Rufus players might be able to pick something up.

Don’t get all defensive about it, dive kick it.

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I main Dan. One of his easier matchups.

hahah, explain?!
http://desora.com/dan/stripfighteriv/
cause, ya know, beating Daigo dont mean shit.

Dan aint random. Rufus is one of the characters most prone to wake up shedanigans, because hes fat as fuck and his hitbox is huge and hes got no reversal to beat dankicks except ex messiah.

Of course, nvm. Yall dont gotta learn. Just get bodied when you play a Dan that knows the matchup (Im not even good, but ive taken games off of some top players.)

Anyone confident in their Rufus should play me sometime on XBL. Im always trying to improve. Of course, try not to get salty if some scrub randoms you out and by some miracle you lose :wink:

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Guile is free when Rufus knocks him down because he has to take risks with flashkicks between your blockstrings (flashkicks dont even work vs divekicks on wakeup) to get rufus off, until then, its pretty hard to get in and a good Guile will definitely give any rufus a hard time getting in, Ive fought really good Guiles and I have spoken to them about the rufus match, and they say its damn hard when he gets in.