RIP Spectacular Spider-Man 2008-2010

JQ will urge that teenage Mephisto joins the cast, he’ll be like the token goth kid. :rofl:

Well JQ said that Ultimate Spider-Man will never ever ever leave High School so there’s that. :looney:

Since this show is very similar to the Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane comic (not on purpose, I’m sure, both just feature teenage Spidey and the same cast) I’d love to see a teenage Firestar show up next season like that comic has. :lovin:

Would that be the Image Mishmash thread?

And we don’t have to worry about Mephisto showing up in Spectacular Spider-Man. Greg Weisman said he’ll never pop up, so this series is safe. And Joe Q said Peter will never leave high school? Man, Quesada has such a hard on for non growth. :tdown:

i’ll make a thread for (only) these spidey av requests in a bit. :tup:

and if i forget, someone remind me.

Dope! I’ll make sure you remember! :bgrin:

Oh and if anyone wonders who Mason was in this past episode he’s actually The Tinkerer.

here’s the thread: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=156498

Greg Weisman on Spider-Man’s Powers in Spectacular Spider-Man

Well, you say his powers have been watered down, but I say his powers have been put back to where they started in the early Lee/Ditko comics. Potato/Potahto, except we both know it matters more than that, right?

Spidey has the proportionate strength of a spider still, and I can’t say how you can see our show and not feel he has spider-reflexes. But I’ve never bought into the notion, despite what’s been written by individual writers in things like the Marvel Universe Handbook – and this from a guy who once wrote multiple, multiple entries of DC Comics’ Who’s Who – that Spidey is one of the strongest guys around. He’s stronger than a normal human, certainly. Considerably stronger. But he’s not Hulk; he’s not Rhino; he’s not as strong as Doc Ock’s arms. He’s about at Gobby level, in my mind. Even a quote-unquote normal human like Ox, for whom strength is his main claim to fame, can challenge him. Again, all you have to do is look at the early Lee/Ditko issues to see that’s how Spidey started. And that’s how I think he should stay – at least as long as he’s still so young, physically immature and inexperienced. Which is not to say you haven’t seen and won’t continue to see feats of strength in coming episodes and especially in Season Two. But Spidey’s never been about the strength, and I think it’s flat out WRONG to make him too strong, so to speak. Frankly, I’d rather see him overpowered, than over-powered.

Spider-Sense is another ability that I think has, over the years, been abused as well. Pete was bit by a spider, not by a psychic. If you buy the notion of SPIDER-sense at all, you need it to fit with (at best) our perception of what a SPIDER can do. So in our show, Pete can only anticipate an incoming blow. That to me, is key. Pete could walk right by a serial killer with a chainsaw hidden under a trenchcoat and not feel a buzz, unless the guy took a swing at him. (Again, he’s not psychic. He doesn’t have a built-in EVIL SENSOR.) Because having spider-sense is NEW to Pete, he’s not even that great at taking advantage of it now. We’ve decided that his spider-sense doesn’t go off (or at any rate it’s too low a level to bother with) when he can see the danger right in front of him. That would be redundant. And unless there’s a lot of anticipation to a blow coming from an unseen source, he just may not get enough warning or information. Often the warning comes too late for him to react. Often the warning comes. But it’s generic. He knows he’s about to get slammed - but doesn’t know from where. (It’s just a tingling sensation. It can’t talk to him and give him more information.) I won’t deny that some writers – including, on occasion, Stan – have in fact turned spider-sense into an all-purpose evil sensor. But personally I don’t buy it.

Of course, you’re more than welcome to disagree with me. But I think you can see that there’s at least a logic to our choices.

And for the record, all of the above was laid out in our series bible – long before a single episode was ever written, boarded or animated. And that bible was vetted and approved by Marvel. They had every right – not to mention responsibility – to disagree with me and insist on a different approach to protect the integrity of the character. But there were no disagreements. We talked it over and concurred. These decisions weren’t made lightly.

http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=10496

^Good stuff. I think he’s correct on most of it.

Yep I agree with the man.

I’m in favor for it as well. Spidey sense in 90’s cartoon was too broken at times. Against the Spot - “I don’t know where he is, but if I trust my Spidey-sense, I’m going to punch…HERE!” What the hell is that?

I agree with the strength too. As smart as Spidey is, he doesn’t need super strength to take down villains.

I’d like if he could explain his SUPER HEALING FACTOR then. Omg, he takes too many critical blows in this show with his costume surviving every second of it. They need to show him limping the next day at school.

I agree with the spider sense bullshit. I remember it got so BAD that Spidey could fucking locate a person in darkness with spider sense.

I even remember in one instance this man was lost. Spidey didn’t know where he was. He used his spider sense to navigate. WTF is that?

That would actually make sense, since he’s probably just detecting vibrations in the air or something.

Sacr3D, great, av! Did you make that yourself?

As for the powers, we’ve still got people moaning on other boards about him not being able to break Ox’s bear hug or finding it odd that someone like Ox or Fancy Dan could give him trouble. Sigh

Did that actually happen on the show?

Yeah it did. Did you miss it?

Cuz if you did, I can send the PM Reggie hooked me up with.

I guess I did, although I’ve seen every episode. I probably just forgot.

^ Me too. What ep was that from?

my guess is the doc ock episode (when they’re at the carnival thing).

Spidey saved Gwen & MJ at the same time and looked like the freaking man in ep 8, “Reaction.”

I had only seen the first episode but caught up today thanks to ReggieHadoken. I’ve been missing out. I’ll definitely be looking forward to new eps now. :tup: