I was being exaggeratory to make a point that the “my steam my rules” taken to its logical conclusion if it were absolutized is harmful.
First of all I’m not suggestion either I or anyone else is murdering anyone, I tried to pick something so absurd that the “my stream my rules”, when absolutized, is shown to be wrong, to get people to say the streamer has just as much as a responsibility to not be a (we used F—, so I can say this) dick as the chatter.
The problem is that twitch is a multi-way participatory media, ad he general rule is the streamer is inviting the public to chat back. If the pubic is invited to chat, and if the streamer doesn’t DICTATE what’s acceptable content on the stream, don’t blame the chat for making a comment that’s against unwritten rules.
The question is who is more reasonable? I believe I am because a lot of reasonable people would assume the content is for 13+ based on her clothing. Mixer makes that assumption automatically, though they are unclear whether, assuming all other rules are followed, if 13+ language content is acceptable in a stream like Srslycurious’s and can be a strike against the streamer for wrongful ejection if she ejects for 13+ comments in her room.
NOW it would be unacceptable because she SPECIFIES “Family Friendly”. But when I was busted that wasn’t a rule. If I see the rule and say it anyway, it’s my own damn fault. But if it’s NOT specified, I have a legal out.
In Ohio, turning right on red is legal assuming, a) it’s not specifically banned at that intersection, and b) you make a good judgement call and give plenty of room for the rightward thru traffic to go through without slamming the brakes. I did not cause an accident and there was no specific rule against it. What did I do wrong?
No where in the Twitch rules and regulations does it say all rating-unmarked rooms are considered rated 13+ OR 6+. If it’s unclear where the default rule lies, whether there’s a rule saying assume 6+ chat unless otherwise specified or if it’s 13+, what’s acceptable in one chat is unacceptable in other chat. I assume, because you have to be 13+ to be a member of twitch, the default rating is 13+ .
Sorry, but that sounds both like both a lot of innocent would be ejected and streamers would have a hard time enforcing norms because of unclear “Twitch-wide basic rules of the road” where local differences are posted clearly.
Now it should be general rule, don’t assume you have the Twitch rules on your side as a chatter. If you’re going to make a snuggly comment, ask what the intended rating of the stream is. If they ask
“why do you ask?”, I’d say “I’ve been ejected for making a 13+ comment in an UNMARKED 6+ zone, and was hosed by a streamer in what looks like a ban trap.”
The problem is that Twitch is a Three-way broadcast channel. TV is one-way, producer to audience. Twitch also includes audience-to-producer and audience-to-each-other. Because there are no clear rules, I have a right to my chat as they do in their stream. And I didn’t break into their stream, it’s open to the public. The streamer rolled out the red carpet. And where clear rules are absent, why is the paying customer in an iffy situation considered ALWAYS WRONG. Not exactly a consumer friendly model.
Twitch did not open Twitch to SOLELY satisfy egos of video game streamers. They do it because THEY MAKE MONEY satisfying the ego of video game streamers. Likewise, I’ll promise due process on my Twitch stream both because unfairly ejecting streamers is wrong, and I can gain viewers by stating such.