Rightly or wrongly booted from 2 twitch streams? #twitchcourt #chattersrights

General Discussion
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She does got alright taste in Retro games.
Her voice isn’t difficult to listen too
And she got nice tits, she knows it and sets up her camera angle so you end up always looking down her bra.

I Don’t care she might be a Thot, I find it very unlikely I would ever meet her in person.
For all I know she ether the sweetest thing you ever meet personality wise or she a mega bitch in person. Don’t care.

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Yeah. I have no interest in supporting any girl that does this.

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For some women showing off is empowerment, others is modesty.

This girl knows she hot and she’s using it to draw attention to her Twitch Channel that pays her money.
I went out with women who did alot worst for a paycheck.

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Her glasses say nerd, but when she puts herself as 60-75% of the picture and always wears the exact same style of clothes, just different colors, and she talks about body issues on her stream, you would think it’s a 13+ stream. Once I said I got girls to ignore my chest that looks more feminine than man’s should by wearing shorts in winter. All the girls noticed my legs and a lot were attracted. Show off what you do best. She even said fat chested and bellied men tend to have better legs than slim men. This was said well before the ban, and she didn’t flag it as 13+ body talk then, so why the change of heart?

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There is a difference, she likes showing off as she knows shes pretty and it ether make her feel good about her self or it helps with the bills. Ether way it’s her choice not ours.
She talks about body issues as no one have to go though life being told they are fat or hideous.
A Woman having a short skirt or a tight shirt is not consent to sexual harassment.

Some women like that "dad’ bod. That also just personal taste, its subjective, She has a type she attracted towards.

Also from what I seen there nothing about her outfit or mannerisms that screams 13+.

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I understand repeated comments, especially after being asked to stop, but the first offense be a bannable offense!?!

Plus I’m the first to be caught in this kerfuffel. I’ve seen people that were banned, both beofre and after me, but their text was censored, so I had no context of what the nature of the violation was, let along the degree, whether it was a 17+ comment or a 13+ comment. She just says “we don’t do that here” and bans you. The comment was censored and without knowing the context doesn’t imply an example to avoid. It’s only recently that the tag “family friendly” was added. If that tag was used when I was chatting. I wouldn’t even use the word “snuggle” because Simpsons fans know what that means. I know the “Family-Friendly” tag means (In the most kid-friendly stating of the rules, which should be an explicit rule on her site if she didn’t say family friendly,) “no discussing body parts that must be covered by a swimsuit”. The point is my offense was grandfathered in, before she said “Family Friendly”. There some standing I must have based on what I discussed. I know not to mention the word “snuggle” on anything rated “Family Friendly”

As for preferring a dad type: Maybe she’s an optimist, she concentrates on the good parts and overlooks the bad in EVERYONE she sees and talks to. So she was saying, given the hand I was dealt, I was presenting myself in a “snuggly” way by hiding my moobs and emphasizing my legs. That’s a beautiful personality that naturally wants to be nice, attractive, and attracted instead of mean, repelling, and repelled.

If Srslycurious sees this, I hope she sees the good in me and not the bad. I said I can obey clearly posted rules. I said if I make a mistake, I can learn and adapt. She learned and adapted too. Now that the “Family Friendly” tag was on her site, that will avoid misunderstandings.

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Please get out more. No one should be this distraught over being banned by a twitch thot

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Exercise ,join a book club ,learn to cook, or some other activity.

It isn’t healthy to have these grand ambitions for some random ho on the internet that just wants attention and money. Also you’re just a faceless number to them until you say something weird or off putting.

Also what makes you think she would be posting on SRK?There are very few women posting here. Maybe 10 years ago but I’m sure the number has drastically reduced especially after the change to Discourse.

I can understand being lonely but there are healthier ways of coping.

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This fuck out here butthurt cause a twitch thot banned him? Left me guess, you’re one of them soft as baby shit incel fuckers ain’t you?

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He mentioned that already. He is a high functioning autistic that seems to have anxiety issues so going out is hard for him. So the man is socializing on SRK the best he can.

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I looked up this lady and her Instagram is trash. Not thot enough.

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Well looks mans no way I could read all that.

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Then why comment?

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Make a tldr. :man_shrugging:t4:

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Unfortunaely; the TLDR version is:

  1. I violated no twitch rules
  2. The streamer hd some rules posted before you make your first chat
  3. In all cases. I violated a stream rule that wasn’t specified.
  4. The punishment for violating such rules is the proverbial Death Penalty on Twitch, permaban. Sounds like Wesley Crusher. Thankfully, twitch laws don’t extend outside twitch.
  5. Twitch says take it up with the streamer, but the only path to the streamer is the twitch stream, so if he/she cuts it off, how do I talk to her to ask for an appeal? I hope if Srslycurious and SharpiePLays do an ego search on Google, they’ll come across this. As for SharpiePlays, the only way I get to talk to him is if we’re on the Zophar321 strream, and when I try to engage him or get Zophar321 to intervene, Zophar321 texts me and blames me for a drop in the ratings. For the sake of my offline friend, and our friendship, I’ll stop it. I hope a compromise is he’d be the first judge in a twitch-televised Twitch Court, and both SharpiePlays and I would abide by his decision. He’s both my offline friend and Sharpie’s protege. He likes us both. He’ll try to find a solution to make both of us happy, and not have his stream ruined by my stubborn bickering and his stubborn silence, and make a healthy 3 way friendship.
Personal story of why I think Zophar321 is a good friend and how he is wiling to hurt me now for my betterment later

By the way, he’s not afraid to tell me when I’m wrong. He willing to disagree about Triple Topper (my card game project that might be published in a couple years, but that’s not important now, the point is he tends to hate it more than another friend, so I know if he likes it, then it’s universally good, like Craziness, my original version. I test it on my more optimistic, and constructively criticizing, friend first.)

Also he was the only voice against me about a neighborhood woman i’ve known since she was 1 and I was 4. He told me, she was in a tough place choosing between her parents and me. And I understand I’m not THE ONE she wants to marry, I might have, at one point, been one of many possible, but not THE ONE at that point, and became nothing once her parents exerted pressure, even though she waved at me when we met outside. That shows she’s conflicted but has no power.

Next are specifics with the 2 separate streamers:

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My case for reinstatement against Srslycurious:

  1. The Twitch terms say you must be 13+ to have your own twitch account. That should mean that unless specified, the content is assumed to be rated 13+. She had no “Family-Friendly” label on her twitch site, like she does now.
  2. Some people might argue the fact that her selfie is 60-75% of the picture area and the game footage is 10-15%, combined with the fact she wears clothes that somewhat show off her chest, and points the camera to emphasize that aspect of her anatomy, all 3 combined, show she’s selling “snuggly feelings”. It’s not like I’m reading in to something. it’s a natural reaction.
  3. Twitch is a two way media. They protect viewers from 17+ streams, but they don’t properly warn about 6+ streams to protect the stream from teen rated talk. Twitch is not properly identifying “no snuggle talk zones.”
  4. Srslycurious banned people before and and after me, and all their comments are deleted so an average viewer does not know what ruled they violated or the degree of the offense, ie. whether it was 1 mile over the speed limit or going 60 MPH in a school zone. She just said “We don’t do that here.”, and bans you.
  5. I tried to keep it as kid friendly as possible, using euphamisms like “snuggly” to say sexy. Things that would go over a 10 year old’s head.
  6. We had a discussion about body issues. She frequently discusses light body building for minor strength and minor toning. The discussion was about loving your body, so I said, I dressed to accommodate me. I a guy with an extremely girly of a chest for a guy, so I compensated by wearing shorts in winter. Then a lot of ladies in high school liked me. Even she said guys with fat tummies and fat chests tend to have cute muscular legs. She didn’t threaten to ban me. She complemented me. So I thought body talk was okay.
  7. iI mentioned her chest as a response to a specific question of “what do all her outfits have in common?”.
  8. I thought “milkers” was a 13+ appropriate way to say “girlish chest”. My justification was that Rugrats Mother’s Day episode when Phil and Lil (twins younger than 2 years old) remembered getting milk “the old way”, They even showed them sucking on their mom. If that episode was rated TV-Y, then “milkers” is definitely an appropriate word for a 13+ twitch stream. It might even be appropriate for 6+ if Rugrats is an indicator.
  9. I did not say I lusted after the body part in question. There was no verb about what I wanted to do with them. I said “Her streaming clothes always showed off her…”, it’s definitely not an unwanted advance that was creepy enough to warrant a permaban because of Sexual harassment.
  10. I’ve learned, before making “snuggle comments” always check the intended rating. Is it 6+, 10+ or 13+. (it warns you if you go into 17+) Just ask MoonbeamArcade. Their site is labeled 17+ I thought it was a safe topic. On the night she banned me, I found MoonbeamArcade, because I was looking for a 17+ stream where the selfies were over 50% of the broadcast area, and they said I had a point.
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I won’t lie, I laughed pretty hard at this. I mean, I get why you got the banhammer but she set herself up for that one. :joy:

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My case against SharpiePlays:

  1. My first offense was giving a spoiler about Sport Talk Baseball.
The spoiler that started the firction

I told him the ending better be better than SportsTalk Baseball, where the only thing they did to indicate a League Championship was having the announcer wear a party hat on his head.

He asked why did you spoil the ending? And I said “Becuase I was trying to think of the worst ending for a sports game and that was the best example that came up.” He said “Didn’t you read, no Spoilers?” I said “Yes I did read. it said no HINTS. It said nothing of spoilers. Hints and Spoilers are different. Hints are gameplay advice and strategies. Spoilers are plot details.” This was becuase I was watching it on Xbox One, and the text of the website wasn’t present on Xbox One. The Xbox One Twitch App just shows the video and text chat.

  1. I knew that SharpiePlays made his professional friendship with Zophar321 (my offline friend) known on his stream. So when I told him I was leaving because my offline friend Zophar321 was streaming, he asked me to repeat it. So I typed it again, and he said you broke a rule. I said “what rule?” He said “No mentioning other streamers.” “but you frequently mention him.” “I don’t want to lose viewers”

  2. Then he gave me an ultimatum. “Give me one good reason why I shouldn’t ban you.” And I said “Because I pay bits, and not just ad bits, but paid bits.” He said “You barely give bits”. and then he banned me.

  3. I waited a year ad asked to talk to his mods, and that sent him in anger. “I don’t ever want to talk to him again.”

  4. I learned my lesson. I now question when I give ANYTHING that might remotely be considered a spoiler or a hint, if there is no stated policy, I always ask “what your policy on chatters giving hints and spoilers? It’s not stated on your rules.” And whenever I leave their site to go watch Zopahr321, which I do religiously, instead of saying “I’m going to go visit Zophar321”, which would be a common sense violation of promoting competing content, I say “I’m going to watch my real life offline friend stream now. No offense. I’d be off whosever stream I’m on to watch my friend.” The streamer usually understands and says thank you for watching in the meantime.

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There’s a reason why this is a TLDR. This is a very complex case with a lot of grey areas. It should be taken in its entirety instead of picked apart piece by piece. Read the whole thing, and then see if I have a case. The last 3 posts of mine are a condensed version of a lot of evidence points that add up to me being hosed. Read the last 3 points, and see if I have a case.

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Two other things. Me telling my urinal story is to establish some “fish-out-of-water humor” to make my point. But for fish out of water humor to work, you have to understand both perspectives, hence why I described how I innocently made a mistake. You either have to put a modern local man in either another place or (thanks to sci-fi) time, alternate reality, etc. And you have to see the alien culture enough how it normally works to use the humor of the clash.

I was doing what I thought was normal, yet others see me as doing disgusting things. Now it’s a laugh it off moment. I never did it again.

Secondly I’m not questioning the legality of a punishment or legitamacy of a rule of a streamer. It was Srslycurioius’s right to ban me for an hour, just to prevent an out of control sex-talk riot on the site. I understand the ban. I just question the chatter friendliness of

a.the Death-Penalty-like permanence and severity of a punishment for a crime…
b. that’s equivalent in severity to Jaywalking (a minor crime in context of the situation.)
c. and equivalent in obviousness as an overly busy checkout line that blocks lane traffic where the line splits off in 2 directions. (Even if your were trying to be peaceable, unless you ask “where is the end of the line?” and get one clear answer, you need either a video to enforce order, or hope for patient people who will let someone in with significantly less items before themselves and allow cuts, for the greater good.)
d. especially for a first time offense. (I will never repeat that mistake. I now know to ask, “What is the intended rating of the stream?”.)

Twithc tok the lazy way out. There are 3 ways you can resolve it.
A) the current system: Assume the streamer is absolutely right all of the time. But then risk too many streamers kicking of too many bit payers, which would hurt Twitch’s bottom line.
B) the complete opposite system: (which I don’t advocate for either, because once I get bandwidth, I want to be a streamer too.) Assume the chatter is always right. But then risk the streamers quitting because they can’t do a show right with an obvious troll chatter, then Twitch has less content, which also screws Twitch.
c) have a human-hosted arbitration system. Heck the Twitch Judges can even Twitch-televise it, and you got new content waiting to be hosted. Judge Wopner and Judge Judy made a living off of being made-for-TV Judge-like arbitrators. Real Courtroom dramas are hits in syndication. And this is a situation that is specific to Twitch. And Twitch streamers and chatters (usually most are both) can learn of issues to make specific rules against. Note Twitch Court should only be used in a dispute between a streamer and chatter. Not between a Streamer and Twitch or a Chatter and Twitch. I’ll suggest episode 1: Should Twitch Streamers have absolute powers of streaming when it comes to permabanning?

It’s in Twitch’s best interest to have a balanced justice system. Go too much in one way or the other and Twitch loses money. Heck Twitch can generate new content by showing these disputes.