I’m trying to find a close match. So you said IL is the closest clone to the Street Fighter Anninversary stick. I heard it was a Happ button style. Are you saying the acutal buttons used on the SF Anniversary are Chinese clones? I’m looking for the closest actual match. If it is a Chinese clone, the basis of the match would be good.
IL are better quality than Happ
What is the better match, for the purposes of collecting, if one wanted original parts? I know you CAN use better buttons. As I said, I’ll worry about better parts when I’m in the top 1% of players worldwide, and competing in a local county-wide or wider area tournaments. Besides, I can’t afford the entry fee to be worth playing money. So the priority is closeness to original. What would be a perfect match? If it’s too specialty, what common, cheaper part is close enough to fell like an original?
The Old Happ used to be rebranded IL parts. New Happ Parts are poorly made chinese parts.
The Default parts on the Street Fighter 15th Anniversary stick are cheap knock offs of Cheap knock offs of the Chinese Happ parts.
If you want the parts that were used from the 90s, your best bets is IL and not Happ.
This is arcade sticks we talking, the top 1% probably use the same parts the bottom 1% use, 99% of the guys in tech talk probably got more expensive and better sticks with a wider variety of parts than what the guys winning evo use.
This is a rare hobby where the elite parts cost only a fraction more than the cheap stuff. So take advantage.
The price difference between 8 arcade quality buttons vs 8 low grade buttons is probably a buck each.
For that you will get way more value and reliability, and I would sat at least double and maybe up to 5x more presses before the switches die.
Oh and for collectors purposes, I would only put this particular stick in that category if it was brand new sealed and kept stored accordingly, even then there was so many of these made its never really going to catch on.
On the subject. There is a pat it asks me to see if I want, called a Microswitch. Do you need a microswitch t get it to work, or do spade connectors go directly into the button? There’s not enough space for a horizontal mount. Can you hook up the space connectors to the joystick prongs directly? If not, whihc microswitch should I buy from Focus Attack? Focus attack is not answering my calls.
Got the Suzo Happs, and the contact parts feel plasitcky, and probably doesn’t work without a switch. So i looked at the Focus Attack web page further. There is a screw in model that has a vertical quick connect on it, that looks a lot like my buttons. The brand is Crown. Do the Crowns fell enough like the Street Fighter 15th Anniversary Stick buttons where except for a couple color changes on the screw (clear instead of black) and the part that holds the quick connects (black insrtead of white) I wouldn’t notice the difference. It looks like an exact match except for the 2 behind the scenes colors. I don’t know if it’s the right size or the same quick connect standard, and if the button feel has that similar, slightly more expensive, metal on metal solid spring contact feel like the SF15A buttons? Any thoughts on Crown Buttons? Oh by the Way Focus Attack answered my call 15 days later, as evidenced by a 15 day wait since the last post.
I’m kind of in a hurry where we have to travel out of county to visit an electronics repair shop, that my dad is coming close to next Wednesday. Also going to take my Laser Disc player there with an extremely fast ejector, and a corresponding mis-alignment of the center hole with the laser disc spindle. If that’s the only problem, it should be easy to repair. It’s probably worth repairing because it has S-Video and Toslink audio, and I can play this one old disc, so it’s probably not a laser problem, whihc would be expensive.
Yeah crown are 28mm so a straight swap
I found some buttons the same size, but not the same tactile feel. This will do temporarily. I see adapter for all systems from Genesis, TG16, and SNES forward, except the Nintendo Switch. But I heard you can use a PS2-> Game Cube adapter and an Official set of Nintendo Game Cube ports for the Wii U, which also works with the Switch, and conect it that way. Has anyone tried that, that is so my SF Anniversary stick can easily fit on the Switch, GameCube, and Wii/Wii U games that use the Game Cube Ports. People were hoping to see it for Smash Bros Switch, but I was wondering how well it works for Ultra Street Fighter 2, the Final Challengers. Also wondering if there is a way to get the SF anniversary stick to work with Metal Slug Anthology. (It won’t be a deal killer, I later got it on PS2) which for some reason requires the analog stick, despite the fact it’s an SNK arcade game compilation.
What do I do for NES, 7800, 5200, Colecovision Standard (some games won’t work with the Super Action), Colecovision Super Action (ditto the standard) Intellivision Flashback ( I flashback modded my INTV to run off Detachable Flashback controllers so I don’t have to use those Demon Spawn controllers, But, then again I did get used to serial killer spawn Colecovision standard controllers, back in the day, maybe it just takes practice). I assume Genesis will work for Master System and Atari 2600, and MAYBE if I get a pin-swaper made can hook up the Genesis adapter into the Astrocade using a 2600-> Astrocade external pin changer. If not, is there a 2600 one, and will THAT work with the Astrocade?
I heard that the Genesis 3 button uses one-signal-per-pin technology, so it should be a simple pin swap for the Astrocade, and I know the Genesis works with a 2600 and SMS.
Finally, 2 I can live without now, but wonder what my options are. 3DO (must have daisy chain port for 1up or 2up play) and Jaguar (with Pro Controller mapping, which can be accommodated by mapping certain keypad buttons to stick buttons. I believe every Pro game is designed to work electronically wth a standard Jag controller, but the form isn’t most efficient, having thumbs on the keypad and the button area is tough. But I’m hoping that could make a good hack.>
Finally is there a PS2-> “DB25 One-Pin-One-Function” adapter that a lot of Joystick builders like to use as a multi-console standard? That would probably be the easiest solution to these obscure systems. you don’t have to decode and re encode joystick signals, just decode and plug straight in.
I tried to get my right hand SF anniversary stick working with Nintendo Switch. I had 3 different avenues: PS2->Xbox One->Switch and PS2->PS3->Switch and PS2->GameCube-> WiiU adapter used on switch. I’ve seen the video work doing PS2->GameCube->WiiU/Switch with a stock PS2 Dualshock 2, but it doesn’t work with my SF anniversary stick.
Maybe it’s because of “Double Translation” when you play a game of telephone, part of the message gets lost. Until someone makes a PS2-> Switch straight adapter, I don’t know how I’ll play SFIIFC.
But I don’t know if the lack of a CRT ruins it.
Well, I plugged in the connectors in a different order and it works fine. Apparently you plug the translation device closest to the user last or at least After you plug the stick into the first adapter… So it’s GC->Wii U in to USB while power is on, then PS2 stick into PS2->GameCube adapter , finally Gamecube adapter into Wii->switch adapter. Then press 3P and HP together on the “Change Order/Grip” screen. It DOES work now. So you can use a Street Fighter Anniversaty stick, either standard or righthanded, in a Switch. Not sure about other sticks and adapters. And the PS2->GC Adapter I used is the Game Elements adapter.
That’s a lot of chaining
Do you notice any lag or dropped inputs?
Here’s a funky thing I noted when I modded an Anniversary stick for a friend of mine. While all the parts were iL/KHapp knock offs, they still used Cherry switches with .187" connection tabs. However, whoever assembled the stick used .110" quick disconnects. So, they had to snip part of the tabs to make them fit properly, rather than use the correct disconnects. Go figure.
In the end, I was less concerned with collector’s value and wanted a stick that worked for the purpose at hand. So I gutted everything and replaced the stick (not quite a Happ Super, but not quite a Happ Ultimate either) with a Perfect 360 and swapped the knockoff buttons for some iL PSL Hoku buttons from Paradise Arcade Shop that were moulded from a translucent material so I could add LEDs. The original PCB was gutted for a PS360, as he was mainly using this on current gen consoles and his PC, so the PS2 connector did little good. I even swapped out the artwork, but kept the original for him. Only think I left were the Start and Select buttons, as I didn’t feel like tracking down smaller size Happ buttons. In the end, if I HAD to take it back to stock I could (I did keep the parts I swapped out) but the point was to replace the custom joystick he originally had that died with another, so I wasn’t concerned with having it ‘original’.
Here’s the link to the photo album of the work done. Photobucket has been acting stupid lately, so it may or may not work:
Yeah i gave up on Photobucket
I probably will do the same, but have no time to move my archive over to Imgur or something similar at the moment.