Retsu

[vasili10]

Yeah but Capcom tells them whats canon and whats not, and what to do and not do with the comic.

For instance when UDON asked Capcom what Charlie’s last name should be they told them to just make it “Nash” and then when they asked what should Chun Li’s father look like, Capcom told them to just use his SF2V appearence.

So anyways if Gouken and Retsu are friends in the comic its something Capcom approved of.

Also an easy way to look at the SF comic is how Capcom would retell the SF story if they had to.

All true. Bottom line is, approval and canon are still two different things. That’s why I asked the question to Dash no Chris.

[System_1]

I really don’t care about canon. To me it’s not something to get worked up about. I mean it’s capcom fot christ sake. They are the king of plot holes !

I guess I’m not hard core enough, The Canon story is good to know. But with capcom changing the storyline so much . { and all the non canon video games and anime. } I really don’t give a shit.

If I want story line I’m going to stick with the comic. It’s been good so far.

… sorry for the rant.

[System_1]

I really don’t care about canon. To me it’s not something to get worked up about. I mean it’s capcom fot christ sake. They are the king of plot holes !

I guess I’m not hard core enough, The Canon story is good to know. But with capcom changing the storyline so much . { and all the non canon video games and anime. } I really don’t give a shit.

If I want story line I’m going to stick with the comic. It’s been good so far.

… sorry for the rant.

I’m with you. I mean of course the canon is fun/interesting to discuss and everything, but it’s also fun IMO to see your favorite SF characters portrayed differently as well. Tiamat’s plot guide is fantastic, but until the day someone [or a group of people more likely] make a storyline series of the SF canon I’ll just go by Udon. Simple enough.

[vasili10]

The comic’s awesome, and different character portrayals are alright with me. I love Udon’s storyline thus far, but that’s not what my question’s about. Dash no Chris threw in a confirmation that I’ve known about for quite a while, and I was just curious to expand on it and possibly learn more from him.

[System_1]

Yeah, I’m all for Street fighter 1 characters. I don’t know why, but I always get excited when I see a fan art of them or spot them in the udon comic. Maybe it’s cause they are so rare. { and least developed of all the game characters, compared to the Alpha and third strike cast,}

Good luck though. Finding info are Retsu { along with Geki and Joe who in my opinion just evolved into vega and cody } will give any hardcore fan a headache.

and don’t even get me started are Mike Bison { boxer} some things are better left unknown. {eek!}

I’m more interested in SF 3’s storyline. I wish they would release a non canon anime on it already. We already know how the Alpha storyline ends but they are still releaseing animes based on the alpha storyline.

Udon is our only hope I guess…

[System_1]

{ along with Geki and Joe who in my opinion just evolved into vega and cody }

Thats true.

With SF1, Bengus and Akiman basicly created what would become the “fighting game cast cliche” ie a Karate Guy, Ninja, Old Chinese Guy, etc, etc, and with SF2 even created more character types that would become cliche, like the Chinese Female Martial Artist, The Freak Character, etc, etc.

All the SF1 chars that were dropped from #1 to #2 was due to the fact that Bengus and Akiman felt they could create more intresting character types or do better versions of certain character types that they had already done, for instance Vega is a far better design and character compared to Geki, which is why Geki was forgotten from the SF series, because Vega was just that good of a replacement for him, although oddly Vega’s character design started out as a Knight type character, and somehow he evolved into a Spanish Ninja.

And yeah Joe evolved into Cody. Cody and Guy were supposed to be the main chars in Street Fighter, or was it Ryu and Ken were supposed to be the main chars in Final Fight, I forget which, but it was one of those two.

[System_1]

Yeah thats why I gave up in those characters. { even though I wouldn’t mind seeing them in the comic. }

Street Fighter 3 still has promise. I hope Capcom dosen’t go " street fighter 2 on us. " { no clear winner, for example}

There’s so many loss ends in SF 3 that I want to see wraped up before they move on. { Ryu, Oro , Gill , Necro and Urien. oh yeah and the Apocolypse,}

[crazydiamond]

Thats true.

With SF1, Bengus and Akiman basicly created what would become the “fighting game cast cliche” ie a Karate Guy, Ninja, Old Chinese Guy, etc, etc, and with SF2 even created more character types that would become cliche, like the Chinese Female Martial Artist, The Freak Character, etc, etc.

Just so people don’t get confused Bengus wasn’t even with Capcom when Street Fighter 1 was created.

[System_1]

Just so people don’t get confuse Bengus wasn’t even with Capcom when Street Fighter 1 was created.

Bengus worked on SF1.

Akiman was the one that got him hired onto the team creating the game, however he wouldnt go by the name Bengus till sometime later.

Street Fighter 3 still has promise. I hope Capcom dosen’t go " street fighter 2 on us. " { no clear winner, for example}

According to Capcom Alex was the SF3 winner.

There’s so many loss ends in SF 3 that I want to see wraped up before they move on. { Ryu, Oro , Gill , Necro and Urien. oh yeah and the Apocolypse,}

Well Ryu will defenitly finish training with Oro, and will probaly surpass Akuma by that point. Then there’s no need to keep Oro around (since he passed on everything to Ryu) or Akuma (who’s kinda overstayed his welcome, and has always held Ryu back in terms of development, ie Ryu could never progress much in story or gameplay as long as Akuma is there)

However when it comes to The Illuminati Capcom might never touch them again.

[crazydiamond]

Bengus worked on SF1.

Akiman was the one that got him hired onto the team creating the game, however he wouldnt go by the name Bengus till sometime later.

Okay I’ll have to take your word for that. Even though I always thought the first game he worked on was dungeons and Dragons. But those Street Fighter illustrations he did were done in 1994 dammit!

[System_1]

But those Street Fighter illustrations he did were done in 1994 dammit!

I just figured that since that artwork was the only artwork SF1 has that it was done when SF1 was done, although I did always wonder why/how anyones art could look that good back in the late 80s.

[crazydiamond]

I just figured that since that artwork was the only artwork SF1 has that it was done when SF1 was done, although I did always wonder why/how anyones art could look that good back in the late 80s.

At the same time he was doing artwork for darkstalkers, he used the same style in the two illustration sets. His earlier Super Street Fighter II illustrations were just the beginning of his style that would give him his great interest from fans.

The reason I did not think Bengus was around when Street Fighter 1 was created is because he didn’t do any official illustrations before Super Street Fighter II. (Well none that I know of.) He has an interview in the Capcom Illustrations book, but I have never read it translated.