Yeah I think you were posting in my thread weeks ago wherein I had listed an assload of easy setups for these and mantis super xups. I deleted the thread after realizing backdash works wonders against it, opening you up to big dmg punishers.
But OP did give me an idea for another oga crossup setup: Mantis super->PPP c.hk for the knockdown. I’ll have to try this when I get home or during casuals tonight.
He is holding back… There is no way his back block was that delayed. Look again.
I wont be hurt if none of you use it in a tourny lol. Also i didnt claim to be first. I wanted to spread the info as much as possible. It is yet another option for us and im glad to have further explored it. I myself have learned alot.
In the area of risk, i like to think i have damn near amazing execution and timing for combos and resets. I believe if the oportunity came up id totally use it without thinking.
yeah bro everyone always appreciate info you find, even if you’re not the first to find it or it might seem gimmicky. Gen needs all the fuggin help he can get 
We just wanted to make sure everyone’s aware of the risk and the reason why we’re not all doing this each match.
BTW in reference to my super PPP c.hk oga crossup idea: it’s pants. Don’t do it unless you’re a ninjar or the scaling is so bad from your combo it doesn’t matter what you use to finish the super with and you want an untechable knockdown. Timing changes for crossup oga every time you super because distance they land after a super changes based on stage position. I think you’re better off going for the reset, the hk knockdown for wakeup pressure, or gekiro for max damage
everyone keeps saying to reset with mp, but s. jab is much easier imo. Is there something I’m missing with mp?
Maybe just dmg? Or maybe MP recovers so you are able to hit ultra w/o timing it?
Looking at this again, it seems to be fun trying to do this kind of setup. Risky but fun, and I always lean towards the fun part.
I wasn’t able to find ultra cross-up settings, but I was able to find some super cross-up settings.
Forward Grab -> 1xForward Dash -> LK Gekiro whiff -> LP super
Works on:
Ibuki
Gen
Dee Jay
Fuerte
Forward Grab -> Crane Forward Jump HP (change stance here) -> Crane c.LK whiff (thanks to stance glitch) -> MP super
Works on:
Honda
Seth
Gouken
Dhalsim
Cammy
Blanka
Fei Long
T.Hawk
Rose
Forward Grab -> Mantis Forward Empty Jump -> s.MK whiff -> HP super
Works on:
Boxer, whiffs if he doesn’t input a direction
Forward Grab -> 1xForward Dash -> Mantis Neutral Empty Jump -> HP super
Works on:
Adon
Forward Grab -> 1xForward Dash -> HK Gekiro whiff -> MP super
Works on:
Everyone else, Guy can reversal U2 you, Gief can reversal U1 you.
Everything needs to be done as fast as possible, or it won’t be a cross-up and you’ll be open to any combo the opponent likes to do. And even then they can back dash you and punish, but some players simply take back dash out of their gameplay.
I might even try it in a real match someday, who knows?
i support this! i like the work you’ve done and ill work towards incorporating these. the only thing i think i’ll have a problem with is remembering which set up per character lol. but im sure it’ll be ok.
very much like this, how do i change the name of the thread?
ill add your work to the first post with your permission.
Sure thing, feel free to include it in the first post if you want to. The setups may be useful for those who:
Even if the setups don’t prove to be useful directly, we’ll still know that some characters have a slower/faster wake-up time than others. Adon has the fastest wake-up after forward grab for example, so you’d never want to try the 2xforward dash -> mantis neutral jump, since it obviously won’t be a safe jump.
I think you have to request mods to change the thread name, but I’m not entirely sure about this.
^afair all characters have the same start up frames except adon (which gets fixed in ssf4:ae), but different hit boxes.
true but then i believe the difference turns into hit boxes. i believe he did well checking other characters. in theory a cross up like he’s provided will work on everyone with one set up or another.
i like this because it seems like a free super for me, in turn you can then reset ultra lol. im all about flash so you can bet im gonna be trying that hahaha.
i like making me people guess wrong.
if ya think about it the fact that these arent good against zangief kinda makes me not like that match up anymore than i already did. keep up the good work brethren!
Also possible reset and cross up Super.
[media=youtube]kg6OktgR6V8[/media] - Cross up after a reset from a FA
[media=youtube]_NLlrdT5YLk[/media] - Cross up after reseting from (KKK) cr.Lk with (PPP) s.Mp
[media=youtube]ADomSUevnxU[/media] - Cross up after reseting some one from oga with (KKK) s.Hk
These are all not to difficult to do aswell just takes some practice sorry about the horrible quality to had to record it on my phone.