Real Urien Unblockables/combos

System_1 · May 27, 2009, 8:03pm

What is the trick to do the headbutt at the end of the corner juggles - cr.hk, lk tackle, lp sphere, tackle, headbutt against Chun, Elena, Makoto, Necro, 12?
I can do charge buffering and charge partitioning, I also can do tackle tackle headbutt against shotos and the headbutt comes out instant because some sort of charge partitioning I believe. But when I do cr.hp, lk tackle, sphere, charge while doing the sphere, then do ->, <- + K for the tackle, I cant seem to get the headbutt out in time.
Also should I use mk or lk for the second tackle?

fire_chocobo · May 27, 2009, 10:01pm

For the tackle sphere tackle combos use lk strength for the 2nd tackle. To do the headbutt finisher…

after the sphere:
charge back for the 2nd tackle
move from back to downback
do forward plus lk to do the 2nd tackle
then charge downback until the tackle finishes
do up plus mp for the headbutt to come out

You may want to change the strength of the headbutt depending on the character.

fire_chocobo · September 8, 2009, 9:49pm

TACKLE xx EX AEGIS COMBOS

Tackle xx EX AEGIS > (c.lp or c.lk or s.mp) x hk tackle works on everyone I think.

On Akuma, Dudley, Hugo, Q, Remy, and Urien you can do:
2. Tackle xx EX AEGIS > (c.lp or c.lk or s.mp) x EX headbutt

some examples

The follow ups are character and position specific, naturally. I’ll list what I have so far.

Akuma: hk tackle x2, mp headbutt
Akuma far: lk tackle (crosses up), lk tackle, s.j. hp

Dudley not too far from the corner: hk tackle x2, mp headbutt
Dudley far: lk tackle (crosses up), dash back, hp headbutt, dash, high/low parry trap

Hugo: hk tackle, mk tackle
Hugo far: mp fireball, mk tackle

Q: hk tackle x2
Q far: wait, hk tackle, mk tackle

Remy: hk tackle, mk tackle, mp headbutt
Remy far: mk tackle (crosses up), mk tackle

Urien: hk tackle x2, mp headbutt
Urien far: mp fireball, hk tackle

Some setups may be worthwhile, and others not. You’ll need about 1 1/4 meter to go for the setup. If the tackle’s blocked or parried, you can do something else such as a high low mixup.

EDIT: Vid of the setups I consider worthwhile.

bergkamp · September 11, 2009, 1:25pm

I saw this on Kuroda’s URIEN DVD. Nice.

fire_chocobo · September 28, 2009, 10:10am

Thanks. Feel free to talk about anything unique or interesting that Kuroda does. I still haven’t seen Kuroda’s Urien and I’m sure others are curious about his play too.

Also, small update to my previous post.

losnah · October 1, 2009, 12:21am

any tips on doing the necro midscreen unblockable/

elbow, lktackle hp super, dash forward rh tackle under?

i was watching an rx video, and he did a st mp before the tackle to get under him. am i supposed to be doing that?

orochi_ryu · October 1, 2009, 3:22am

either works

losnah · October 1, 2009, 8:45am

so this is what im doing.
elbow, lk tackle xx fierce aegis(hold downback), dash forward(hold downback), f+rh, dash dash.
the last roudnhlosue tackle never comes out. maybe i can just hold back instead of downback to make it a bit easier?

orochi_ryu · October 1, 2009, 9:32am

yes try holding just back(i mean either works).
also remember not to hold back too long on your fist charge. you want half a charge. so dont start charging as soon as aegis comes out, but wait a lil bit, then charge, then dash forward and finish the charge into the tackle.

fire_chocobo · October 1, 2009, 10:07am

Begin charging after Urien says the “Ae” and before he says the “Gis” in Aegis Reflector.

losnah · October 3, 2009, 8:50pm

i didnt even know u could over charge… dayum

Riot_Guard · October 20, 2009, 8:19pm

Very nice. Some ones I haven’t seen before.

fire_chocobo · October 21, 2009, 12:45am

Thank you kindly, sir.

:china:

I’m liking the far Akuma setup right now, as one can red parry a RH tatsu and go straight into RH tackle. It leads to 60-70% damage that cannot be teleported or parried out of. Now if only I could red parry RH tatsu consistently in a match…

Riot_Guard · October 26, 2009, 9:33pm

I didn’t think jab could combo into ex headbutt. I always do st. mp or elbow into it.

fire_chocobo · October 27, 2009, 3:14am

Yea, fortunately it works in the EX Aegis combos because there’s a hit from the reflector between the jab and EX headbutt. For the same reason Urien can do tackle xx EX Aegis > c.lp x hk tackle even though normally c.lp x hk tackle would never combo.

6pt7 · December 10, 2009, 9:58pm

What are some other aegis shenanigans outside of the unblockable? Other than the tackle, EX aegis combos listed on this page, I’ve also seen RX do the following setup:

c.hp (1 hit), lp fireball, xx hp aegis, c.hk (if opponent gets swept, they bounce off the aegis for one hit), j.lp reset, dash behind, f.hp

6pt7 · December 15, 2009, 9:37am

Okay, maybe not. How bout another question:

I can do dash tackle setup pretty consistently against Dudley now, but for others like Hugo and Alex I hit them rather than go under. Any timing tips?

Kazzy · December 17, 2009, 1:19am

Against Hugo, wait a bit after the dash, then rh tackle

Against Alex and Necro, dash up stand strong xx rh tackle

bergkamp · December 19, 2009, 4:03pm

Midscreen and corner unblockable setups aren’t 100% reliable. I mean, they are not combos, but unblockable.

Midscreen dash headbutt setup on shotos
If you guard break with f.mk, rival can parry low-high-low and throw you.
This setup is also blockable – I have been blocked, but only once.
Midscreen dash tackle setup on DUDLEY
If you guard break with f.mk, rival can parry low and get knocked out.
Not sure about other characters.
Midscreen kneedrop headbutt setup on twins
If you guard break with c.lk, rival can parry low and throw you.
Kneedrop dash headbutt setup is even worse IMO.

bergkamp · December 20, 2009, 11:07am

After testing, I would say that this is the best midscreen unblockable setup on YUN, YANG, IBUKI and ORO (unstable on him).

I use roundhouse kneedrop, then immediately a mp headbutt.

Its only drawback is the cost of meter.