PS4 vs PC - Pros/Cons

Let’s make a comparison. Here’s the baseline Apollo rig from Digital Storm. $1991 dollars without custom water cooling, a monitor, a mouse, or a keyboard. That’s fine, yeah?

Problem is:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $379.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $147.98 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $51.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $74.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $47.38 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card $314.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case $179.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $103.86 @ Mac Mall
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $18.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $92.99 @ Adorama
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1463.15
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-13 11:41 EST-0500

That’s the same (or as close an analog as you can get- what the hell is Digital Storm brand anything?) rig. Shipping included. If you’re okay with Digital Storm outing you for $527+ to make a rig, that’s fine, but people need to be aware of what they’re really getting.

Isn’t all the sky lake processors ddr

I was just going to ask… I thought all skylake tech was built to use DDr4 ram only…

This. Building your own PC is much easier than people think. There are tons of guides out there and resources/help on which parts to pick with reddit, pcpartpicker, tom’s hardware, etc.

Yup, make it easier on yourself and by a case that comes pre wired with its own built in wire hiding system and a modular or semi modular power supply and its just plug and play. It can be intimidating at first but it isn’t bad at all.

I would not buy a case with a built in power supply, get that on its own. Your wording makes it seem like that might be what you’re suggesting.

No not at all, sorry I mean a case that has a decent wiring hiding system in place (like say the NZXT S340) and a semi modular or full modular power supply. It made the experience less intimidating to me on my first go around so I recommend it to anyone who is just starting out (plus the NZXT cases are dope af)

That said, many retailers often have Case + PSU or Motherboard + CPU combos and they usually come with a bit of a discount.

Also, we’re getting sidetracked here a bit from the original topic so let’s leave the building-a-pc-is-easy argument for a different thread.

You are right, but my 860M ran the beta pretty well at 1080p. I got a few rare slowdowns but I didn’t even bother to mess with the graphic settings. I think they were at least on pair with PS4 version.

It depends on the model. Some are within 100$ of building yourself and having digital storm do it for you. For example check out the vanquish model. When you look at opportunity cost of your time vs. 100$, that’s not bad. Some people would rather spend their time doing something else and having a company build their computer for them. It also comes down to having another option available to you as a consumer.

Also compared to prices of premade computers from Dell, Asus, etc. These are way better deals. Obviously building your own computer is the best course of action as I stated in my previous post, but if you’re going to get a premade, I would totally recommend Digital Storm.

A little over $200. Again, this includes shipping costs for all the parts individually.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $194.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $56.00 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $44.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $47.69 @ Amazon
Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card $139.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case $65.54 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $38.90 @ Mac Mall
Optical Drive LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer $20.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $92.99 @ Adorama
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $692.07
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-15 21:19 EST-0500

From what I’ve seen, it looks like you consistently pay an extra 30-40% for Digital Storm’s services. Obviously that means that the gap is going to look smaller on a rig with a lower overall cost.

692 X 1.3 = 899.6 (Vanquish 4 Baseline Price = 899)
1463.15 X 1.36 = 1989.89 (Apollo Baseline Price = 1991)

Quite frankly speaking, I’d rather get on Skype with someone and step-by-step them through the build then watch them waste a sizable chunk of money on something that is ultimately unnecessary.

I agree. My main point was in comparing premade computers. Some people opt to go those routes, and getting a premade at best buy for example is way worse bang for your buck.

Every time a friend or family member buys a pre-built from Best Buy or Wal-Mart, my response is usually something along the lines of:

“It would hurt less if you looked me dead in the eyes while you flushed that money down the toilet, then went and slapped me in the face.”

I don’t know how many times I have to explain these concepts to them before they catch on.

Alright, so I got some builds together for SFV.

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  1. All prices include shipping.
  2. As a rule I avoid mail-in rebates.
  3. You do not have to pay $100 for Windows. You might consider PMing me to find out why that is.
  4. You can always buy used, but remember that you’re playing roulette. Retailers like GPUShack can offer some refurbished products with a warranty, but that’s the exception rather than the rule.
  5. The market for PC parts is very volatile. Things change quick and they change often. Builds will be updated as necessary.
  6. The following builds are for the US only. If you need European or Canadian, PM me.**

We’ll start things off with the lower tier at $450 with the Hadouken.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor $124.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock H110M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $54.98 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $36.99 @ Amazon
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $41.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon R7 370 2GB Core Edition Video Card $126.99 @ NCIX US
Case DIYPC Solo-T1-BK ATX Mid Tower Case $29.89 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $34.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $450.82
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-01 20:05 EST-0500

Basic level gaming at 1080p resolutions. Should handle most tiles at medium with some tweaks needed for the more aggressively “optimized” games. The power supply and the processor will need upgrading first before you buy some balls-to-the-wall graphics card as an upgrade, so keep that in mind before pulling the trigger.

Next up is the EX Hadouken at $600, with a much better processor, a better GPU, and a power supply that can survive an upgrade to the GTX 970 if you’ve the mind.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $204.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $55.38 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $36.99 @ Amazon
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $41.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card $169.99 @ Amazon
Case DIYPC DIY-N8-BK MicroATX Mini Tower Case $40.88 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $595.17
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-01 20:03 EST-0500

Better performance at 1080p and a processor that can handle any gaming this generation with little to no hiccups. The 380 is excellent at the $170 range.

Next up is the Denjin Hadouken at $700, a great all-purpose gaming rig that should run SFV at High to Ultra settings with few issues.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor $224.95 @ B&H
Motherboard ASRock H170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $94.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $39.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card $189.99 @ Amazon
Case Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case $42.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Kingwin CF-012LB 40.0 CFM 120mm Fan $6.39 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $698.27
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-01 20:05 EST-0500

Let’s hit up the $800 mark with the Ryujin Hadouken.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor $224.95 @ B&H
Motherboard ASRock H170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $94.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $39.99 @ Newegg
Storage OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $69.95 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card $196.99 @ NCIX US
Case Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case $47.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Rosewill 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $64.89 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $793.73
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-01 20:08 EST-0500

The most important add-ons here are the SSD for faster load times/transfer speeds, and overall hardware improvements across the board.

Let’s hit the Metsu Hadouken at $900.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor $224.95 @ B&H
Motherboard ASRock H170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $94.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $39.99 @ Newegg
Storage OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $69.95 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.99 @ Newegg
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card $299.99 @ Newegg
Case Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case $47.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Rosewill 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $64.89 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $896.73
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-01 20:10 EST-0500

Now that we’ve hit the 390, no GPU upgrades will be needed for gaming at 1080p, period.

Let’s round our parts off with the V-Trigger Cancel into Metsu Hadouken at $1k.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $256.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper T2 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $16.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $94.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $39.99 @ Newegg
Storage OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $69.95 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.99 @ Newegg
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card $299.99 @ Newegg
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Rosewill 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $64.89 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $997.77
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-01 20:16 EST-0500

The extra $100 from the Metsu build goes toward getting us to the top of the i5 processor leaderboards and includes a CPU cooler for overclocking, Nicer parts across the board.

BONUS ROUND: The “NoChart, stop it. You’re drunk. The FGC is too poor for this.”

LOOK AWAY BEFORE IT BURNS YOUR EYES.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $412.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X41 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $107.29 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $154.95 @ Amazon
Memory Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $129.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $154.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $127.95 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card $639.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case $134.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1983.12
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-01 20:12 EST-0500

Need assistance with Monitor and Keyboard/Mouse selections?

A 1080p monitor with fast response time is key.

Keyboard/Mouse selections are much less important overall.

What would be a good budget AMD build that can run SF5 reasonably well? I can’t define “reasonably”, so I will leave it up to you.
Higher level AMD’s are still cheaper than Intels right now, right? What about their radion stuff compare to nvidia?

FX-6300 6 core 3.5Ghz Turbo mode 4.1Ghz $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286&cm_re=fx_6300--19-113-286--Product
FX-8350 8 core 4.0Ghz Turbo Mode 4.2Ghz $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&cm_re=fx8350--19-113-284--Product
FX-8370 8 core 4.0Ghz Turbo mode 4.3Ghz $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113374&cm_re=fx8370--19-113-374--Product

All 3 CPUs should have no problems running SFV. I wouldnt recommend FX-9000 series due to TDP and pricing.

And what’s a good budget graphics to go along with it? and mobo and stuff… heck, please do all the parts work for me lol.

This is my current AMD tower

Fatality 990FX Killer ATX motherboard
AMD FX 8350 4.0GHz processor
Crucial 8GB RAM
Gigabyte GTX 960 Graphics card
Corsair CX600M power supply
Cooler Master Hyper 212 cooling fan
LG 24x DVD/BluRay burner
Western Digital 1TB HDD

The discount I got from my Dad working at Micro Center helped, but got it for less than 600 from what I remember.

With Nvidia your best bet is 750 Ti. $110 with a $20 rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127784&cm_re=750ti--14-127-784--Product

AMD R7 260x is another great option. $120 with a $30 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121898&cm_re=260x--14-121-898--Product

I have a very similar setup. Difference is I have 16GB of ram, 750w PSU, and R9 290 videocard.

How reliable is PowerColor? They have a r9 270 for $109 with $20 MIR on newegg.