payment sent for a round gate
i have to try it
Hate to bring this up again in a cross-post, but it might be worth the scolding at any rate.
I take it that the circular gate is being tested with the replacement Flash PCB, Toodles?
Just pointing this out so that you avoid some troubles down the line…
So, how are the reviews going? 
I don’t care much about octagonal gates, but I’m curious about square VS circular gate JLF…
Word on shipping to Brazil? How about that mass-selling via Lizard Lick? =P
Regards. 
yo toddz I got a question. I removed the square gate from my te to play , I dont like octagonal either. but my microswitches are getting fucked up cuz of that.
My question is does this circular gate will feel good for me?
thanx.
GT-C arrived in the mail today.
First impression: Damn, it’s a JLF with a circle gate! It felt so bizarre, but in a good way. I had the expected problems finding diagonals, but that’s me, not the restrictor. Throw distance is perfect, I think.
I’ll have more impressions when I get some actual time to play (and also try it on an ASCII optical)…
Just received my circular gate today.
Installed with no problems… feels good… will measure tonight but the throw feels about the same as an octo minus the obvious edges… Learning zangief so i’ll test the circular out tonight on live play… as for cpu testing… diagnals are still good. i’m not having any difficulty in blocks, jumps, dashes… feels smooth…
Tonight i’ll see how it stands up to some 360 play with gief and i’ll play the gate a little harder than usual to see if i can get it to snap off lol. but im positive that this can take the abuse so after a couple days i’ll open the stick back up and check for grooves or any type of defect.
First impression Toodles is that you have a winner here with this cicular gate… the throw could be “a little” smaller but i wouldnt go too much more than what you have with the medium… it feels as if you might miss inputs going too much smaller than this.
I will also try the mod trick with Electrical tape on the actuator to see if it still unravels like when using the octo gate a little later also.
I recieved mine today and this thing is buttery smooth! I have no problems missing diags or any other inputs. I dowish I had a small to compare to though. Either way this is going to be a hit when it goes into full productin! Good job toodles!
Just got my medium round gate and I’m about to give it a couple test games. My fist impression is that the throw feels a little larger than my home made gate, we’ll see how it effects my game. Other than that it feels super smooth and durable. I’ll post the results later this evening.
Coupla random notes:
- Please, all feedback, good or bad, is appreciated. Be honest, be blunt, be rude, I dont care. Bring it.
- I just did a not so scientific test involving a fine tip fountain pen and the medium restrictor. As you know, the engage distance of a switch is farther in than the disengage; that’s why you can move a stick one direction, hear it click, and move it a ways back towards neutral before it unclicks. I used the pen to mark where the click and unclicks were on the edge of the restrictor. The disengage distance of each looks perfectly like 45 degrees, but that means the engage section is slightly smaller. I dont know what to make of that at the moment. There’s no way to avoid the fact that there will be zone areas where the shaft in the exact same spot will register as a diagonal or a cardinal, depending on if the stick was previously fully in a cardinal or diagonal zone.
- I found a pretty good deal for molding and fabrication, so I’m pretty damn certain that this project will end up getting full production and an absolute cubic fuck-ton (3.4 metric ass-tonnes for you non-US folks) of them made. But I’d like to do it once and only once, which means I need your feedback folks. Please, test it out, detail every little thing about it you can recreate or randomly feel.
- Someone complained earlier about a squeeking sound when pulled hard in a direction. This is caused by the GT-C being slightly smaller than the spot in the JLF its made to go, so it slides just a hair against excessive force. I’ll be looking at increasing the width of the part to better match.
$12 sent. I’m thinking I’ll like the small better, but I’ll try the medium first.
~Paik
Ok I just got done playing nice long session and here’s my honest opinion.
The build quality seems pretty solid and I didn’t notice any squeaking or odd movement at all.
That said I think the throw distance is just a little bigger than it needs to be. My home made circle gate is just a hair smaller and that little bit makes a huge difference.
I play a charge character so doing supers I could feel the larger throw and drooped a few because of this. I also noticed it when shaking out of dizzy.
I’m sure I could get used to this after a little more play time so it’s not a deal breaker just my opinion. I’ll keep playing with it and see if I can adjust to the larger throw distance with a little more practice.
Just finished some playing time with Gief.
Throw can be a bit smaller. play is smooth but it still feels a bit larger than it should be.
I have not noticed any squeaks either.
Starting some ryu time soon to see how it is with a shoto…
Over all i enjoy how smooth it is.
I’ll post some more tomorrow. Going to see how much tape i wrap around the actuator to get the throw to a smaller radius. prolly not too much but im thinking it will work a bit better.
Appreciated. If I tried to make the circle smaller, the sections on the outside that activate diagonals would get smaller and smaller at a geometric rate. It would make the maximum travel smaller, but it would make the diagonals harder to hit, and wouldn’t change the actual distance needed to activate the microswitch.
Actually I’ve been using a bored out square gate and yes the diagonals are tighter but it’s never been a problem for me. Their is a fine line between the 2 I guess you have to choose one or the other. Like I said I can probably get used to it or find a way to make the actuator a little larger.
WOO! In texas and have to say the internet at this hampton in isn’t too bad…
as far as the testing put in another two hours worth of time on the stick and really happy with how smooth its playing. Opened up the bottom to look at the part and no wear marks as of yet. I was a little concerned that the e-clip might rub against it after some hard play but it has not. I placed some electircal tape on the actuator to see about the throw. it made a small diffrence and since there are no corners to catch the tape it has yet to unravel like it tends to do with the octo’s or square gates.
About the comment about the gate being a little smaller… a little bit of play time has corrected that and now being used to it im pretty happy with the distance of the throw. I know of a few people that use the etape to close the gap in the throw so im trying it out to see if it comes off like it did in the past but for the time bieng it is preforming very well.
I am not a “production expert” when it comes to the manufacturing or development of things such as this. Or for that matter, I am not even all that informed to the “ins and outs” of the Sanwa JLF. But I do get how the throw needs to be the way it is inorder for the diagnols to hit correctly. So my question (and it is entirely out of ignorance, mind you) is: given that there are some users bringing up the issue of the throw being larger than preferred, is it entirely feasible to develop a modified actuator which would tighten the radius abit and perhaps package it with the GT-C (or seperately for those who like options)? Or would that just mess something up with how the joystick operates?
Well, it would technically be possible. but one miracle at a time.
hey toodles, i was messin with the your gate playing marvel on the sanwa flash. first, the gate is awesome! everything is really smooth and it seems perfectly symmetrical all around. only one problem: the throw is just a bit too big for the optical pcb. the actuator touches the pcb, you can feel it as you rotate the stick. i actually like the bigger throws but if you want it to fit for opticals, it has to be a hair smaller. i actually wanted to suggest to you about the spark, if you could make the hole in the pcb bigger than the hole on the flash or ascii optical? that way people could use a larger throw size if they want
anyway, great work on this!
Just finished a few rounds on BB:CS with the GT-C after a few months with an octo gate on a HRAP 3. Honestly, almost everything seems perfect. The throw feels about the same as the dedicated octo gate I got. Tis very smooth and I am no longer getting stuck on down-back when doing half-circle backs. It does feel like there is a bump directly north on the gate but I might had messed something up during the install. I’m going to disassemble the stick and check tomorrow to be sure.
Okay… taped up the actuator to see about shortening the throw.
- it was a little difficult to hit diagonals with the tape mod… throw was shorter and was able to hit diagonals but not as easy.
- Tape did take longer to unravel than normal but still tended to break loose and unravel.
- Took everything off and started again. Honest opinion. throw is good to go. Actuator mod via tape or sharpie cap would suffice anyone trying to shorten the throw but the actual GT-C size is good to go.
Replaced stick with stock square gate and noticed a HUGE diffrence in play. stick throw felt very loose.
Replaced stick with octo gate. throw diffrence was around the same just not as smooth due to catching corners… Felt a lot more of the stick when going through combos
GT-C has a very comfortable throw and was smooth in use when transitions in combos were used. 360 players will love it over other playtypes but using it with a charge and shoto still gave very smooth comfortable motions with stick.
not much more to say… physical inspection of the GT-C after some hard use i did not see any signs of wear or dmg from the shaft connecting with gate… good material stays snug in grooves once installed.