Opinion >> counteropinion >> refutations/analysis >> middleground tends to be par for the course for us. I’m used to it ;).
LOL. I’d agree with you but then we’d both be wrong.
Marvelo, I think I recall you saying Arthur daggers was a “10” assist for Nova. I thought that might be true a while back. But what are some of the specific benefits beyond the obvious?
Besides it providing 9 durability points to help deal with zoning, (Plasma beam is only 8), it’s only 3 hits so it doesn’t scale, and it locks down for a considerable amount of time which lets you get two overheads everytime they block as well as leaving them standing, which lets you get even more mixups even on hit. (one of the benefits Weasel Shot has). Unlike Beam which gives you only one. They’re fucking insane good for Nova. Also, Cent Rush confirmable blah blah.
If only Arthur was a good character. ;_;
Thanks. About what I figured.
Arthur may suck. But the boost to a point of Nova’s caliber means it isn’t a bad idea.
Still, it’s not like it makes his gameplan so airtight that Arthur should never have to come out, so Arthur sucking is a huge issue. That said, I kinda like the idea of Arthur second after Nova since it makes a DHC to armor or bracelet loops a thing, plus allows Arthur to play with an assist if Nova dies.
So let’s say you go with Nova/Arthur. Who’s on third?
I was reading this and was just about to say I have no idea who could be a third with Nova Arthur. I have no idea who/what works with him.
I still think Nova/Spencer/Arthur is a good idea.
The problem with putting Arthur 2nd and trying to provide him with what he needs is that his character archetype doesn’t work in this game outside of MorriDoom and Dorm + Doom (i.e. pure keepaway). You could provide him with assists that help him in that regard (jam session and missiles) but then you’d be gimping Nova. I guess you could argue that only giving Nova one neutral assist gimps him; but I think we’ve seen enough Nova/Spencer to recognize that that’s not the end of the world. It’s just better to put another character who heavily benefits from daggers second than to put Arthur there.
Spencer also allows you to hard tag and King’s armor up Arthur; and the Spencer Arthur THC makes guess bionic arms totally safe.
All that being said, if you just really want Arthur second, Coon 3rd would probably be best. Log helps Nova apparently and it’s a good assist for protecting Arthur right above/in front of him–boosting his keepaway.
Yeah I mean personally I obviously prefer Nova with two neutral assists, but more importantly I think solo Arthur is trash. Also, fuck Spencer. In that regard I guess I’d want to give him a good defensive assist but there aren’t a ton of options. Log might be decent though.
Arthur’s gonna be trash no matter what, unfortunately. And considering RR is also trash, putting him after Arthur doesn’t really help anything…Generally with characters like Arthur (garbage tier with good assist), your team’s gonna be front-loaded.
I feel like putting Arthur second just gimps him more, tbh. Without XF3 and/or lots of meter, he’s really just not a threat, even with an assist. I think having either a TAC infinite character second to build meter for endgame, or a strong character who uses Daggers well would be better. I can see Doom using Daggers fairly well in combination with butter gun, idk. Vergil or Spencer could work, but all I’m getting from this is a worse version of Nova/oneofthoseguys/Taskmaster, with a better assist. Really wish Arthur wasn’t so bad. RR too, I would like to use Spitfire with some characters…blah.
Nova/Doom/Arthur can work. Doom with missiles for resets and extensions since you already have Daggers. Also, Arthur likes missiles.
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking too. Arthur Doom can also work because Arthur can combo off a DHC from Nova
I could see that. I guess TAC’s would be pretty necessary for this team so Doom 2nd is probably the best bet.
Can’t test right now, and this isn’t really relevant to Nova but since we’re discussing Daggers anyway, do they straight up beat Plasma Beam? All versions of PB? Or only when Gold? Or not even then?
Doom/Arthur would be the better order since you get TAC’s and stuff.
Also, Arthur is a godlike assist for Doom. Pretty much for everyone though. You can also do THC stuff with Doom/Arthur. If Doom’s getting mauled just DHC to Arthur and zone for a bit. Try to build some meter then GOLD ARMOR to Sphere Flame gives you one mixup since you can butter beam + call daggers.
Doom is everyone’s homie I swear…
I MEEEAANNNN. I been working on perfecting/optimizing this combo someone posted but starting with 1 meter…Nova Arthur alone will end up getting in the 900 range once Nova’s combo is optimized/breaks 700 before the DHC. I rather take my guaranteed damage than a TAC but everyone has their own preference.
Plus after experimenting with Nova Arthur Doom, I found that you can do a Nova combo to get a meter, do Super Nova and DHC to Arthur IMMEDIATELY, hard tag Doom, and get a rep + Nova extension. In the end you will only get about 900 BUT you get Arthur with armored daggers.
Did somebody say Arthur!?
The real stuff is Nova/Vergil/Arthur. You can do super basic nova combos into vergil DHC for ToD damage. Vergil is one of the best users of dagger assist in the game, while doom is just kinda ok with it. Also, vergil is vergil. If your nova and arthur get birthday’d, you get XF3 vergil. If people snap in your arthur, you still have vergil as well.
But it’s still putting a lot of fate in the king of Camelot. I mean, you can’t really argue that this is better team, just one of the best scenario if you really want to include Arthur in your Nova team.
I don’t feel like this assist will actually be some kind of “Surprise, You didn’t know this assist will allow that”. most opponents should play around it as they should around any other projectile/beam assist.
No one here is fronting like Arthur isn’t shit lol
Just started playing with Nova and was wondering if I could get some tips. i’m planning on inserting him into the Hulk/Sent shell. Putting Nova 2nd or point depending on the matchup. I got Hulk backed by Nova down(corner pickups, hard tag after command grab). Question is what can Nova do with both sent and hulk backing him and just sent backing him.
On Point:
My nova Bnb that DHCs into hulk does 925K, but was wondering if I can push that over a mil? lmhs>sj mmh> flight cancel mmhs> Call drones> srk l> srk m> Srk h xx power xx gamma crush.
Nova benefit at all from any of hulk’s assists?
2nd:
This is where I have absolutely no idea what doing. I get box dashing with jump h and tri dash L’s once they get locked down by drones and all that.Any shenanigans or synergy that Nova and Sent have? Without the Hulk dhc Nova’s damage doesn’t seem all that great :/, but I’m probably not using him right >_<