Pokemon X and Y: Aftermath (GEN 6 Discussion, Tier Talk, Breeding, Meganite)

The_Co-Jones · 2013-10-16T20:48:57.000Z

Phantom_Angel:

Shintarru:

I’m adding everyone on the first page. My in game name is Malcolm

It’s hard to keep up with you guys… I don’t know who’s who anymore lol

@Eren… May have to update the OP with in-game names

I’ll post what I know:

Phantom Angel - Phantom
Ninjanuity - Vanessa
Joshkaz - Bufanaquisha
Shintarru - Malcolm
LordWilliam1234 - William
Neesa - Neesa
po pimpus - Po
Yoh001 - Yoh001
Arkkai - Arkkai
Zebstar - Zebia(?)
GodotsRevenge - Godot
Atkasha - Atkasha
The Martian - Martian
regulate - Regulate
Mr. Bastos - Bastos
Thancruz - Julian
Syke1 - Shane
evilweevle - Dave
TheRock-BoS - Jonathan

Need clarification on:

Johan
Dante
<3 (Literally)

My Mii character for the system is listed as Carlos (It was my bro’s system at first). I’ve since restarted and have my own. I’ll have to post the SECOND 3DS FC later (my system).

Phantom_Angel · 2013-10-16T20:56:44.000Z

Anybody know if Pokemon-Amie affection resets if you do trade/trade back to evolve something?

Thancruz · 2013-10-16T21:11:48.000Z

I have a question. When it comes to pokemon nature, do those factor big time in competitive play. Like even if charizards EVs are maxed but his nature is relaxed. Does it make his viability any different?

MARTIAN · 2013-10-16T21:26:02.000Z

Thancruz:

I have a question. When it comes to pokemon nature, do those factor big time in competitive play. Like even if charizards EVs are maxed but his nature is relaxed. Does it make his viability any different?

What are natures? How do they affect gameplay?

white_shadow · 2013-10-16T21:29:28.000Z

Phantom_Angel:

white_shadow:

Phantom_Angel:

Finally got my Scyther!

Ended up with:
12 Adamants w/Swarm, 3f/9m
4 Eggs… All 100% Adamant, 80% Swarm, 20% Technician (I was breeding Scyther/Scyther the whole time instead of Scyther/Ditto, which gives a 50% chance for each ability)
4 other Scyther with various natures

Want one? Let me know!

I might want one! Remember there’s an ability changer as well!

The animation for Acrobatics is slick as FUUUU… “DRAGON! DRAGON! ROCK THE DRAGON!.. DRAGONBALL Z!!!”

Drop that FC.

That Ability Capsule is 200BP, and I think it’s single-use… Besides, I got my Adamant/Technician/Male. I just can’t seem to breed another one. If I had a female with Technician, it would be so much easier…

5429-7957-1528

^ Free for anyone else to add.

I added you btw. I feel like rushing through the game just to get the Friend Safari Zone place, especially after finding out that the Pokes there come with 2 perfect IVs! I’ll feel like a kid in a candy store! :bgrin:

GreyFoxx · 2013-10-16T21:30:29.000Z

Curious does those Pokemon at Gamestop jump onto X or Y? Or i have to snag a old B/W 1 or 2 to grab them?

Neesa · 2013-10-16T21:30:34.000Z

Thancruz:

I have a question. When it comes to pokemon nature, do those factor big time in competitive play. Like even if charizards EVs are maxed but his nature is relaxed. Does it make his viability any different?

Well, the natures determine what of their stats are going to go up as its leveled. If you took 2 Charizards and one that has the better nature and EV trained vs one that is EV trained, the better nature will give a few more points more than the one that is just EV trained. I think VSlash said it was a +/- 17 difference (please correct me if I’m wrong), which is like, a possible 4 extra stat points you could have.

I found 8 EV reset bags in Special Training. Now, I can start training my Pokes better. I got my Eevee with max Sp. Def and SpA, so when I make it into Sylveon, I SHALL WRECK FACE. Re-doing my Delphox for SpA and Spd atm. Shit just takes a fuck ton of time.

Phantom_Angel:

Anybody know if Pokemon-Amie affection resets if you do trade/trade back to evolve something?

Good question. I’ll have to look into that. But, I would assume that it would reset so that the affection is towards you and not the previous trainer… Then again, that is real world logic, not video game.

Phantom_Angel · 2013-10-16T21:33:43.000Z

Thancruz:

I have a question. When it comes to pokemon nature, do those factor big time in competitive play. Like even if charizards EVs are maxed but his nature is relaxed. Does it make his viability any different?

The Martian:

Thancruz:

I have a question. When it comes to pokemon nature, do those factor big time in competitive play. Like even if charizards EVs are maxed but his nature is relaxed. Does it make his viability any different?

What are natures? How do they affect gameplay?

Natures dictate which stat will be bolstered, and which will be hindered. For example, an Adamant Nature boosts Attack, but lowers Special Attack. Some natures, like Hardy, have no effect at all. You can tell by the colors in the Status Menu.

Red - Raised, Blue - Lowered, None - Neutral

That said, they play a major role in Competitive Play, because they decide how high a stat can go. You would not want a nature that lowers Special Attack on a Pokemon that focuses on Special Attacks, and so on and so forth. Optimally, you would want a Nature that boosts your main stat, and weakens a stat you’re not using. It all depends on the set you’re running.

I believe @Saitsu did a guide on this as well.

evilweevle · 2013-10-16T21:46:12.000Z

are natures and IVs the same thing or not?

MARTIAN · 2013-10-16T21:46:20.000Z

And just when I was getting the hang of Effect Values…

I’ll never learn this entire game…

Thancruz · 2013-10-16T21:53:45.000Z

Pokemon for most execution heavy game? yup. Move over GG,MVC2,KOF…

Phantom_Angel · 2013-10-16T21:55:48.000Z

@Neesa, wanna help me evolve my Scyther? It has 2 Hearts, btw… We’ll see what happens when I get it back.

evilweevle:

are natures and IVs the same thing or not?

Nope. I’m not qualified to speak on IVs… I never really cared for them.

The Martian:

And just when I was getting the hang of Effect Values…

I’ll never learn this entire game…

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ron-swanson-computer-throw-out-parks-and-rec.gif

It seems like a lot but, you’ll get it. Pokemon is a lot like Fighting Games… At first glance, the ins and outs look intimidating but, once you know it, you know it.

Bious · 2013-10-16T21:56:19.000Z

evilweevle:

are natures and IVs the same thing or not?

Nope.

Natures basically tell you which stats a Pokémon has an advantage and disadvantage in. For example, any pokemon with an adamant nature will have a higher attack but a lower special attack than a pokemon of the same type but a different nature.

IV’s are randomized bonus stat points that differ from pokemon to pokemon.

@Saitsu, link me your guide so I can put it in this thread I’m finishing up.

Neesa · 2013-10-16T21:56:27.000Z

Yeah. Send me a trade. Experiment time!

Shintarru · 2013-10-16T21:57:31.000Z

I made berry juice for my Pokemon and when I gave it to them it said their base speed stat was raised by 27 points. Those were evs correct?

Phantom_Angel · 2013-10-16T22:01:28.000Z

Shintarru:

I made berry juice for my Pokemon and when I gave it to them it said their base speed stat was raised by 27 points. Those were evs correct?

Sounds like it. Berry Juice does that? I’ve never tried it…

Saitsu · 2013-10-16T22:03:16.000Z

Phantom_Angel:

Added everyone on this page… Be sure to add me as well. If I missed anyone, let me know.

Everyone that wants a Scyther, just hit me with a trade invite. I’ll know what’s up.

I’ll breed more Technician ones for you guys.

@Saitsu

I’m not so sure about Super Training > EV Training… It takes a while. IMO, Pokerus + Power Item is still going to be the optimal method. I spent about an hour and a half in ST with my Scyther, and I’m not finished. I would’ve been done already if I was doing it the other way.

Yeah, but Pokerus is a crapshoot to get plus Super Training still grants visible EV’s and progression.

If it does take a bit longer, it’s worth it due to simple convenience.

@Bious, I’m a bit busy right now, you’ll have to wait.

Neesa · 2013-10-16T22:05:08.000Z

@Phantom It kept the fullness and enjoyment that it had, but lost all the affection.

Phantom_Angel · 2013-10-16T22:06:21.000Z

Thanks, @Neesa.

Scizor still has 2 Affection, but 4 Fullness… You fed it?

Neesa · 2013-10-16T22:07:21.000Z

Phantom_Angel:

Thanks, @Neesa.

Scizor still has 2 Affection, but 4 Fullness… You fed it?

Oh, no… interesting. So for a new trainer, it loses the affection, but keeps it for the OT. Guess my theory was correct then.