Pokemon Go thread: If i miss that zubat one more time

I don’t think Nintendo wants to go full on with this. That would kill the need for any other handheld series.

No it wont. This game will die off when people dont wanna walk around antmore

I can see this game not so much dieing as becoming something that merely ticks along in the background whilst people walk from a to b as people stop giving a shit about gyms or find a pokemon they’re happy with.

Jay Z and Beyonce are into Pokemon now?

I swear holding gyms is the most annoying thing. Sure yes you can still get a bonus even if you hold it for a few min (long enough to get the def bonus) but still it would be nice to keep it longer than 5 fucking min!

I just do it for the easy money

Really good that the game doesn’t crash every couple of minutes anymore, really poor that you wander around aimlessly and find nothing but fucking Pidgeys.

Making the calculation available on the client would mean client would have access to the location of the pokemon, which means ppl can reverse engineer app and then use it to locate pokemons. I’m guessing why the calculations were being done on the server. So I can understand their reasoning

Where I think they show their incompetence is not transacting basic things such as transferring pokemon. Can’t keep track of the # of times I transferred a pokemon only to lose the pokemon and not get a candy. Essentially, the transfer of a pokemon should be rolled back if the user did not get a candy. Or if they don’t wanna transact it cause of server load, they should increment candy count FIRST, then decrement pokemon count. much better user experience, and users occasionally get free candies

They already do, though. The API returns the exact location of the pokemon; thats how the client shows it on the map. But in addition to returning where the pokemon exactly is, it also calculated what step count to show, and the client just displays whatever is shown. Thats how the pokemon tracker sites work, because it simulates the client and gets a list back of all pokemon with gps coordinates to them.

There is still some issues that weren’t solved, and some new issues that happened with this update.

  • For one, i used to catch pokemon while on the 7 train and regardless of the avatar ring passing a popping pokemon, i was still able to click and encounter it. Now, if your avatar’s ring passes the pokemon at a high distance, then game will hang.
  • The whole nearby menu is very painful to look at because whenever I see some good ones, i just feel a bit stressed out because i have no idea what to do.
  • The hanging pokeball still happens
  • They took away the Save Battery Mode. While this didn’t do much, i just felt better knowing my phone was on sleep instead of fully on in my pocket and it still saved a small bit of battery time.

Fuck them for taking out Pokevision. I have no idea why Nilantic so uptight, why the fuck do they care about people getting info on where to find certain pokemon? They think it’s cheating, so?

oh the server was already returning the location of the pokemon, and what footprint distance to show? yeah that’s really silly, they could just offload that calculation to the client. i’m not good with low level networking stuff, but how did people intercept the packets being sent back and forth between phone and server (assuming this is how they figured all this out)? genuinely curious, its pretty neat that people figured this out on their own with no actual API from niantech.

was this information being sent in the clear unencrypted, or did they have to figure that out as well?

anyway i knew about pokevision but didnt use it. part of the fun of this game was walking around parks in real life with the wife and having that sense of anticipation of seeing what new pokemon would show up. pokevision pretty much ruined that spirit of discovery.

Catching Pokemon is a bore now… and when you finally find a Dratini, it runs away. I’ve caught 124 on the Pokedex but ones like Snorlax just sit there because no candy.

Have they changed up spawns completely?
In the part of town I live there were nothing but rats, pidgeons and bats n shit and now I see a much larger variety of Pokemon around my block.
Anyone else experiencing this?

Also this game is awesome.
I mean it’s shit, but I’ve grown to become a fat fuck since I hit 30 and this game is my way out of being a fat bastard.

I think they did. My area used to be flooded with Doduo’s and slowpokes in a certain area, but i haven’t seen either so far. Mostly pidgey’s and ratats now. The good side is that i’ve seen an increase of Charmanders with a slight decrease of Squirtles in my area.

Some areas still have the same amount of pokemon, like Zubats in downtown Manhattan.

I’m ok with Pokevision and all the rest of those sites being gone once they fully fix the nearby menu.

Well, I was trying to crack it and gave up. The app uses https, so its hard to sniff the traffic and intercept it; it might be possible, but it’d be approaching levels of hacking I wasn’t going to breach lol. So I gave up.

Turns out some other dudes figured it out, and posted their code open source. I think they decompiled the .apk file, and were able to reverse engineer what webservice calls were being used from inside the client; then, you just write your own app, and include all the same information that the app would when you call the webservices. In essence, they were just rewriting the client after decompiling it. I think, I’m not actually sure, I can’t imagine they were able to trial and error their way into a private API, I think the decompiling route makes the most sense. Once they were able to simulate the calls, everything else was built on top of that. The clients even go so far as to have to log in to the pokemon service, which is why they say make sure that you use a fake account not tied to your main one when using these, because you don’t want to get your main account banned if they start looking for anomalies in the data. I know they were able to do this routinely with Ingress, if you did 2 actions that were too far apart to be legal (not just like across the country, but if you tried to hack 2 portals – like using a pokestop – where you were going faster than like 12 mph, then it would prevent it from happening). So they have the tools to recognize spoofers and these pokevision client type things. Now, Im sure they can’t handle it with the amount of raw data coming in, but its only a matter of time anyway before they are able to crack down.

I think in the meantime, until they get the new tracking method up, they should just display all pokemon on the map on your nearby list, as a show of good faith

gps spoofing and botting are the two most prevalent. Almost all of the streams are spoofers.

To those who are struggling with out Pokevision, i did discover a site you can use.

Pokewhere . com

I’m not so sure as to how accurate it is yet but it was just suggested to me by my friend. It isn’t as great as pokevision fro what i can tell but lets give it a try

Thats not a real time scanner at all, thats just user entered information right? Not really in the same ballpark, unfortunately.

those are the only sites still up. All the sites that were doing API pulls to place pokemon on the map got C & D notices.