Pokemon General Discussion Thread - It's Lit(ten)!

Need to see the stats obviously but I’m a fan of 100% accurate hurricane and heat wave.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

Can we now have a Pokemon that can strike fear with Fell Stinger? Hope so.

Pidgeot finally gets the respect it deserves. Fuck a Staraptor and a Talonflame.

Finally Beedrill gets recognized as the terror it was supposed to be in Gen 1.

And FINALLY Pidgeot gets remembered period.

All we need is Mega Braviary and all the Birds will finally be worth a damn.

always liked Fearow over Pidgeot and Gen 2 didn’t have any cool birds (as in Normal/Flying). Been pretty good since Swellow though

Yeah but Fearow had shine already. Pidgeot hasn’t yet.

No Miss Hurricanes will be sweet, but getting clipped by No Miss Stone Edges will be sour.

Mega Beedrill will be an awesome mindgame trap- Do you stay in and risk letting it get off a Fell Stinger boost, or do you switch and eat the boosted Pursuit?

Skarmory laughs at it, but whatever.

How the fuck does Beedrill get boosted Pursuit?

You know how Pursuit does more damage if you switch out? That’s what I was referring to.

Stay in, eat Adaptability-Boosted Fell Stinger that makes it stronger, or switch out and eat a now-80BP Pursuit.

fell stinger is too weak to try and abuse, especially when at best, i think they’ll give him a 50/50 boost to attack and speed just so he’s viable, it’s not going to deal enough damage

he already gets access to SD which doesn’t need to opponent to KO in order to get a boost. does he miss out on damage? yea but with heatran being everywhere, i don’t think he’ll get very often to use fell stinger

Yeah because having a Mega is going to get Beedrill out of NU/UU hell and into OU like it did Houndoom, Banette, and Alakazam…

OH WAIT…

Shitty ability, good ability with no decent way to abuse it outside of Destiny Bond due to bad movepool, shitty ability.

they fucked up on both banette and houndoom, mega alakazam is one of the best pokemon in OU. it’s only BL because there are 5/6 mega pokemon better than it. smogon even has mega alakazam at A- tier

banette needs a turn to use prankster and has a worse typing and bulk than sableye and an opportunity cost
houndoom needs the sun to be truly effective, it’s not terrible but it needs a lot of support and why use it when there’s charizard Y

Beedrill is still going to be fraik as fuck so it doesnt matter that attack power wont mean a thing when he gets hit and he is out of there. Beedrill isn’t going to be worth a spot on teams when mega mence and mega gross plus all the other megas are stilk running rampant. Beedrill wikk maybe bee UU. Same for pigeot. Thunder hits 100 and blizzard as well He is not going to be in OU either. He will not be worth that mega slot Too many other good megas

lol if he got blizzard and thunder he might be really good but sadly that isn’t the case.

Adaptability U-turns?

lol

If he got blizzard and thunder he’d be a definite problem hell even focus blast, which I was upraised he didn’t have due to how widespread it is.

A lot of Megas like Houndoom for example are clearly doubles meta focused.

Common attacking move in doubles is heat wave switch in on a heat wave flash fire up, have your partner set up sunny day and you could either A start spamming sun boosted Heat waves at +2 cause solar power or B nasty plot up and then start spamming Heat Waves at+4 for the super garaunteed win. either way he’s a fairly easy to use win condition in the doubles environment.

Same goes for Banette Dbond is a whole lot more threatening when your attacking Pokemon has moves that are there to hit 2 pokes at once

I said thunder and blizzard meaning anyone can hit him with these moves and 1 shot him thanks to no guard. Same as stone edge. Does no guard affect eveything in doubles? If so you can run him in doubles with something that learns blizzard Thunder Fire Blast etc for high damage hits.

I know some of you fuckers are breeding Weedle now.

…Hook me up with some good ones

Don’t even matter cause you need drill run for coverage so unless ORAS has tutors Beedrill still gonna be irrelevant