My DS died, I will be back on in about 5 minutes.
Saitsu
January 24, 2014, 8:04am
2222
Just take your time or save it for tomorrow unless you really NEED that Shellder in a hurry.
Saitsu:
Mood4food77:
i think it would be better to use dragon claw over dragon tail than curse over dragon dance
he’s got that base 71 speed, which is an awkward speed stat, at +1 he’ll outspeed starmie (or at least tie it)
If Scarf Jolly Pangoro outspeeds Starmie, Tyrantrum definitely does.
Actually, +1 Jolly Tyrantrum outspeed +Spe Base 130s (not that you’d need to). I believe that Adamant Nature goes down to speed 120s but I’m not 100% on that one.
i checked adamant, he hits 361.5 after a DD boost, which since it’ll get rounded down is the same as +Spe Starmie
locoghoul:
RadicalFuzz:
Can anyone trade me some Y exclusives? Namely any of these. I’ll help with X exclusives if I can.
Spoiler
Shellder
How do you get the fossils of the older gen pokemon like Kabuto, are the fossils in rocks?
I can give you kabuto and omanyte. Do you have cranidos (or rampardos) by any chance? or i dunno pinsir?
Edit: yeah you go into that cave and use rock smash, you can get random poke encounters, nothing or fossils on those. Changes everyday I think
I can trade you a pinsir, and I’ll check the caves for fossils shortly. Thanks for the answer too, by the way, that helps a lot.
2 Root Fossils, so one Lileep is coming your way :tup:
The_Damned:
(Of course Japan cheats at Pokemon , as best shown by the literally Japanese A.I. in various mansions and in-game tournaments.)
Has Gamefrak even said publicly how they’ve fixed PokeBank or any other changes made to it? Similarly, have they said what, if anything, they’re going to do about things that already traded through PokeBank?
Not to make it seem like you don’t know what you’re doing, but I have to ask since I made a similar mistake with Circle Throw literally just yesterday: you are aware that Dragon Tail is -6 in priority, right? Meaning that even if it was used by a Pokemon with literally infinite speed, it would still go last unless opponent was using Trick Room (or also using Dragon Tail or Circle Throw) or had Stall.
If you knew this already and we’re just using Dragon Dance for Fire Fang with the power boost to Dragon Tail being incidental regardless of speed, then more power to you.
If you didn’t know, then Dragon Dance should probably be replaced with Curse. Admittedly, I’m not sure how easy this would be to “fix” given how much time in-game breeding still seems to take and definitely does take versus just plugging something (legal) in on a simulator, but I figured I would ask.
I’m aware of the priority of Dragon Tail. You are correct I am using Dragon Dance more for the power addition to dragon tail obviously over the speed after the first DD. After I get off a dd the option tree goes between fire fang to kill, second DD for full sweep ,or dragon tail to shut down anyone setting up/ switching in or at worst trade to wear down Pokes which is his main objective anyway.
Mood4food77:
i think it would be better to use dragon claw over dragon tail than curse over dragon dance
he’s got that base 71 speed, which is an awkward speed stat, at +1 he’ll outspeed starmie (or at least tie it)
Yeah that’s why I said his defenses are weak despite having 119 base Def (I believe that’s the number) and now with fairy beating dragon as well he has 6 weaknesses. With his typing, stats and movepool I decided his best role would be an aggressive suicide lead and that’s this sets purpose. I do agree though curse doesn’t work on him because of his typing he cant expect to wall anything.
RadicalFuzz:
locoghoul:
RadicalFuzz:
Can anyone trade me some Y exclusives? Namely any of these. I’ll help with X exclusives if I can.
Spoiler
Shellder
How do you get the fossils of the older gen pokemon like Kabuto, are the fossils in rocks?
I can give you kabuto and omanyte. Do you have cranidos (or rampardos) by any chance? or i dunno pinsir?
Edit: yeah you go into that cave and use rock smash, you can get random poke encounters, nothing or fossils on those. Changes everyday I think
I can trade you a pinsir, and I’ll check the caves for fossils shortly. Thanks for the answer too, by the way, that helps a lot.
2 Root Fossils, so one Lileep is coming your way :tup:
glad i helped, i’m online if you want to trade btw
S00perCam:
The_Damned:
(Of course Japan cheats at Pokemon , as best shown by the literally Japanese A.I. in various mansions and in-game tournaments.)
Has Gamefrak even said publicly how they’ve fixed PokeBank or any other changes made to it? Similarly, have they said what, if anything, they’re going to do about things that already traded through PokeBank?
Not to make it seem like you don’t know what you’re doing, but I have to ask since I made a similar mistake with Circle Throw literally just yesterday: you are aware that Dragon Tail is -6 in priority, right? Meaning that even if it was used by a Pokemon with literally infinite speed, it would still go last unless opponent was using Trick Room (or also using Dragon Tail or Circle Throw) or had Stall.
If you knew this already and we’re just using Dragon Dance for Fire Fang with the power boost to Dragon Tail being incidental regardless of speed, then more power to you.
If you didn’t know, then Dragon Dance should probably be replaced with Curse. Admittedly, I’m not sure how easy this would be to “fix” given how much time in-game breeding still seems to take and definitely does take versus just plugging something (legal) in on a simulator, but I figured I would ask.
I’m aware of the priority of Dragon Tail. You are correct I am using Dragon Dance more for the power addition to dragon tail obviously over the speed after the first DD. After I get off a dd the option tree goes between fire fang to kill, second DD for full sweep ,or dragon tail to shut down anyone setting up/ switching in or at worst trade to wear down Pokes which is his main objective anyway.
Mood4food77:
i think it would be better to use dragon claw over dragon tail than curse over dragon dance
he’s got that base 71 speed, which is an awkward speed stat, at +1 he’ll outspeed starmie (or at least tie it)
Yeah that’s why I said his defenses are weak despite having 119 base Def (I believe that’s the number) and now with fairy beating dragon as well he has 6 weaknesses. With his typing, stats and movepool I decided his best role would be an aggressive suicide lead and that’s this sets purpose. I do agree though curse doesn’t work on him because of his typing he cant expect to wall anything.
I think you might get more coverage out of SR/Ice fang/Stone edge or head smash/EQ or fire fang
S00perCam:
The_Damned:
(Of course Japan cheats at Pokemon , as best shown by the literally Japanese A.I. in various mansions and in-game tournaments.)
Has Gamefrak even said publicly how they’ve fixed PokeBank or any other changes made to it? Similarly, have they said what, if anything, they’re going to do about things that already traded through PokeBank?
Not to make it seem like you don’t know what you’re doing, but I have to ask since I made a similar mistake with Circle Throw literally just yesterday: you are aware that Dragon Tail is -6 in priority, right? Meaning that even if it was used by a Pokemon with literally infinite speed, it would still go last unless opponent was using Trick Room (or also using Dragon Tail or Circle Throw) or had Stall.
If you knew this already and we’re just using Dragon Dance for Fire Fang with the power boost to Dragon Tail being incidental regardless of speed, then more power to you.
If you didn’t know, then Dragon Dance should probably be replaced with Curse. Admittedly, I’m not sure how easy this would be to “fix” given how much time in-game breeding still seems to take and definitely does take versus just plugging something (legal) in on a simulator, but I figured I would ask.
I’m aware of the priority of Dragon Tail. You are correct I am using Dragon Dance more for the power addition to dragon tail obviously over the speed after the first DD. After I get off a dd the option tree goes between fire fang to kill, second DD for full sweep ,or dragon tail to shut down anyone setting up/ switching in or at worst trade to wear down Pokes which is his main objective anyway.
Mood4food77:
i think it would be better to use dragon claw over dragon tail than curse over dragon dance
he’s got that base 71 speed, which is an awkward speed stat, at +1 he’ll outspeed starmie (or at least tie it)
Yeah that’s why I said his defenses are weak despite having 119 base Def (I believe that’s the number) and now with fairy beating dragon as well he has 6 weaknesses. With his typing, stats and movepool I decided his best role would be an aggressive suicide lead and that’s this sets purpose. I do agree though curse doesn’t work on him because of his typing he cant expect to wall anything.
no, no, no
look i may sound like a dick here but you are asking too much of one pokemon, you’re asking him to cover all phases of the game (early, mid, an d late) especially when one of those rolls is not crossing over into his other two
you are asking a wall breaker/late game sweeper to also be a shuffler, you make him worse at all roles by doing so which is not something you want to do
you are boosting his speed, you need him to go first, he’s not bulky enough to go last, you’re going to be switching so often with him that he won’t be able to do any roles
locoghoul what’s your IGN? I’m ready to trade whenever you are.
Never mind, and thanks for the trade I realized I didn’t actually have a Pinsir for you, so I’m going to catch one immediately
You don’t sound like a dick I take no personal offense over the discussion of optimal game stategy.
I may have over explained myself in my description.
His role is to do somewhat significant damage and die I am doing no switching with him at all
Its been surprisingly effective but not intentionally so. I don’t think he’s that great of a Pokémon purely based on typing. Ive found however, If your prediction is good, you can get a good bit of mileage out of him. Even if he dies you can secure a win pretty early on depending on your team comp.
Looking for anyone who has a Timid Riolu they’d be willing to trade. Probably won’t be trading to night and maybe not tomorrow but maybe we can work something out then I’ll let you know when I’m available
Saitsu
January 24, 2014, 9:57am
2233
Uh, I can make a Timid Riolu but I can’t promise that it will be 5 IVs.
It doesn’t have to be. 4 IVs would be nice as I could take it from there. Not sure what I could give you in return though
Saitsu
January 24, 2014, 10:05am
2235
Well give me a couple of days and maybe I could hit 4 if i’m lucky.
I’m extremely sorry for not having the Pinsir ready like I thought I did, and I have to leave now, but I’ll have it ready ASAP and message you when I do.
@Saitsu Ok, I probably won’t be touching my DS for a couple days anyway
@saitsu you still need panchamps? I have 5 IV scrappy/mold breaker/ 1 iron fist.
To others I have some extra perfect timid infiltrator noibats and perfect jolly baton pass hawlucha’s for trade.
Saitsu
January 24, 2014, 10:35am
2239
Well I still need to send you your damn Clauncher anyway so sure, it’ll save me some time breeding.
I am online now if you want it.
This Clauncher has AIDS I want a refund he is not fit for battle.