Garuda too low. Should be in B. I mean, Gargoyle and Garuda are the same character except their killer weapons vary a bit and you have Gargoyle in A.
You’re right, sir.
The reason Gargoyle is higher than Garuda is because Gargoyle is so much better at killing, Garuda is better as an assist character(in my experiences), outside of DM/TagDM and he’s ass in CM.
I tried to factor a lot of things when I placed those characters, but Garuda is a bit too low, I think he’s high C but not B.
That’s a fair spot. Garuda is better than everyone in C. I agree Gargoyle is better at killing. Drill sucks because it’s many small hits instead of one big hit.
Like I said before:
Garuda crushes your guard.
Gargoyle crushes your fucking spirit.
We she do an all Gargoyle game one of these days, TB, and spam flying kick on the enemy squad leader like last time.
shit was so awesome.
Jamestown McMotherfucker not A-tier?
Hmmm… reasoning on that one plz?
Really he could be high B or low A, give or take, doesn’t really matter.
Applied for wiki author…ship. I guess that’s what it is?
NocturNeru and I got a fuck ton of just raw numbers for the game and I’d like to dump 'em on the wiki at some point. Maybe graphics for Light, Heavy, etc. at some point too?
This game is silly. Does this game have weight classes? I’m not really sure yet.
Why is Durga where he is? Been using him the last couple days and he seems he’d be A-tier at least based on first impressions.
Not saying you’re wrong or I’m right, just curious about your rationale.
I think it does, at least in terms of how much you can block before a guard break. When I was testing some moves for guard breaking I noticed Leo, Durga and all the girls had guards that broke easier than the rest. It may effect hang time when the character jumps but everybody seems to behave the same during a juggle.
Hey how do people feel about damage scaling? 99% sure it exists in this game.
Mind is kind of blown right now.
When you factor in all of the things I did(Performance in all game modes, kill speed, kill stealing efficiency, normals effectiveness, KW effectiveness, raw damage, tech, comboing abilities, and other things) he is B.
One thing about him is his damage is ass if you cant get a combo going(except his KWH, which is one of the better in the game), this is on purpose though, because they needed something to off set that ridiculous range of his.
Not only is the damage a downside, but it causes other down sides, like killing speed and (partly)normals effectiveness.
Durga’s best assets are his ability to steal kills with his KW, the speed on his normals and delayed combo, his combos, as well as having the ability to do big damage in the air easily.
All that is very good, but he isn’t better than anyone above him, but that doesn’t matter because a good Durga could still beat a good anyone in tiers B - A.
I feel like the heavy characters hit the ground more quickly while in air juggles. I have to adjust my timing offline for the leo infinite but online they all seem to have a weird float that is more lenient.
I think I’ve mastered the KW trick. It definitely seems to work best for Bayonetta and Zero. Unfortunately it doesn’t work for most of my favorite characters 
When the game is loading, it displays some tips. I’m pretty sure I read once that heavy characters have Super Armor against weak attacks when dashing or something…
Haven’t tested it because I only play “light” characters. (Leo, Zero, Sasha)
Is Sasha so awful that she doesn’t belong in that tier list?
[S]Does anyone know where I can find renders of Bayonetta and Gargoyle? The only ones I’ve found are on TV Tropes and the size sucks.[/S]
Never mind.[S][/S]
Wow. Fei Rin is so braindead. What have I been doing with my life?
Of course this game has damage scaling. This is probably my main reason for using Gargoyle over Garuda besides that j.KWL. j.KWH (drill) scales hard to the point where it does next to nothing if you’re doing a long combo.
Aww man, another rin sister on them mean, PSN streets.
Yes, you’re thinking just what I was thinking.
Until I tried out Ai Rin a few days ago.
Mother of rins.
Yes, she is pretty “meh”, but I just forgot about her.
She’s somewhere on C tier.
Some level 50 guy just went 0-0 in TDM LOL. The dude would turtle it up constantly and NEVER attack. Even in 1 on 1 he would literally block until you try and attack him then he’d try to counter attack. Every time I saw him I’d just go and fight someone else because even if his teammate is getting bodied nearby, he’d just wait until no-one was watching him before he did anything. This shit disgusts me, I said it before during the demo and I’ll say it again, they need to nerf defense in this game.
People who watch my stream every night. I won’t stream tonight. Sorry. D: