epyonx
October 14, 2012, 7:45pm
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and some more opinions from old srk
Posted by Dasrik on 04:22:2001 04:17 AM:
I am better at MvC1 than MvC2. And I still like the latter better.
…trunacated…
Look at the top tier of MvC1. Basically, the only top tier person who is a real
pixie is Wolverine, and that isn’t even why he’s top tier. War Machine and
Strider’s dashes are too slow to pixie with, and trying to pixie with Red Venom
is a fast way to die against patient players.
RV and Wolverine are good because they can maintain consistent pressure on an
opponent, and their throw ranges are so good that turtling on them is basically
ineffective in the long run. Strider owns because he has the orbs and one of the
best duo supers in the game; the War Machines dominate because they have the
other good duo super.
MvC2 has a real team dynamic that MvC1 lacks. In MvC1, for the most part, your
back-up partner didn’t make one squat of difference to your point man. The Wolvy
in Morrigan/Wolverine didn’t help you win anymore than the Jin in Morrigan/Jin
did. The closest thing was using x/Strider for the orb duo. Your gameplay
changes dramatically with the team you choose in MvC2. Cable/Doom is very
different from Cable/Cyclops. Doom/Storm is not Doom/Blackheart. Slapping three
top tiers together will not make a good team. An example is
Magneto/Cable/Blackheart. They all get in the way of each other - the most
viable duo is Cable/BH, which is easy to get around with thought.
As for balance, the ratio of 15:56 is brought up a lot. Tell me, can you make a
non-idiotic argument as to how a game with 15 playable characters out of 16 is
any better than a game with 15 out of 56? MvC1 had 8 characters that saw real
action in a tourney - Strider, Wolverine, WM, GWM, RV, Chun-Li (her aerial
threat was taken advantage of a lot), Captain Commando (to counter GWM), and
Hulk (to counter teams without a viable duo threat). MvC2 currently has a roster
of 15 tournament-viable characters, and it grows all the time as new bullshit is
discovered.
I think people complain because they don’t have the patience to play a fighting
game well. Patience isn’t a prized value in this country, I think. Hulk in MvC1
got you nowhere unless you were patient - that’s why so many people disregarded
him. And Cable/xx traps are hard to break if you lose your patience and just try
to hit Cable. I think people liked MvC1 because at an intermediate level, it
spoonfed hits to them, so everyone with a super combo was good. Whereas MvC2 at
an intermediate level is dominated by Cable and Sentinel trappage.
Patience is a virtue. Learn from your favorite kung fu movie! Sheesh.
…trunacated…
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Could someone explain the Captain Commando countering GWM and Hulk part, just curious.
While we are at it lets put in UMK3 in the line up as well.
SORRY FOR THE LATE RESPONSE BRO
SRK PRE-CRASH ARCHIVE. I THINK @PREPPY HAS THE LINK
Idk about HULK, but Commando can’t be uncomboed by anyone. Against GWM I see people just throwing out all of caps helpers and corridors cause they really hurt.
OMG that share as he’ll would get the crowd hyped up so agree show owed be At eve 2013 would love to play it at next yrs tourney
You really outta double check your sentences before you post. It took me a good 10 seconds to decipher wtf you meant in the first part of that sentence.
I’m really bad at this aren’t I? It’s ok just tryna learn the site that’s all :’(
mvc3 plays nothing like it’s previous predecessors. Nothing.
Honestly, it will feel good to have a actual MAHVEL game in the tournament lineup, and not tvc2. I vote yes. Give me any vs game before capcom vs marvel 3, so I can start playing vs games again.
Aren’t you the guy that plays UMVC3, tries to troll people, then ragequits when they beat you?
Why are you responding to post that is 5 months old?
After that I post I figured it was Gamefaqs idiot.
No.
Let MvC1 die.
Capcom, bring this back:
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MARTIAN
December 13, 2012, 3:52am
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GGPO ain’t enough, eh?
Also why not at least MVC2?
We’re too old to be able to see what the hell is going on in that game anymore.
MARTIAN
December 13, 2012, 3:55am
75
LOL Fair enough
Really I’d like to see CvS2 get more attention than anything
I wouldnt mind seeing a tournament of legends thing with mvc1 I rather have something else tho lol
Unfortunately, nobody really plays that game seriously anymore. Whatever small community is left for that game, isn’t enough to muster up a decent number of legends.
As far as old school Marvel games go, your best bet is to have some kind of big MVC2 side tournament there, since that’s where the majority of Marvel-heads hit their stride.
No way that those guys playing MvC3 will switch to 2 or 1. No way. In those games at least you had to have execution. MvC3 is the easiest game to play ever (execution wise)
Preppy
December 13, 2012, 6:17am
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This thread has been derailed to all hell. Maybe non-“Petition to get MvC1 at Evo” conversation should go elsewhere.