"...personally i think all online is shit. not just ranked. Ranked is just the lowest tier of shit."

star · 2011-10-18T20:20:00.000Z

And now for something completely related:

Total Play Time: 290h
Battle points 20015
Rank A+
Next Rank: 9985

Number of ranked fights: 3577 (Total: 4079)
Wins: 3009
Win Rate: 84.12%
Perfects:205
Normal Wins: 5374
Ultra Wins: 569
Super Wins: 216
Cheap Wins: 179
Time Over Wins: 8
Longest win streak: 48

I skip the character percentage this time, not much changed there except that I don’t have so much problems with guy any more.
Instead to contribute a small amount of usefull Information for a change, here are the BP Points received for winning against the different fighting classes. The A and A+ BP are for certain, B+ on the other hand is long ago. I will edit these numbers once I play with my PS3 account again.

As a B+ Rank you gain by winning against
a D or D+ player: 1 BP
a C player: 5 BP
a C+ player: 15 BP
a B player: 25 BP
a B+ player: 35 BP
a A Player: 45 BP
a A+ Player ? BP

As an A Rank you gain(lose) by winning (losing) against
a D or D+ or C player: 1 BP (10 BP; 10 BP; 20 BP)
a C+ player: 5 BP (35 BP)
a B player 15 BP (45 BP)
a B+ player: 20 BP (40 BP)
a A Player: 35 BP (35 BP)
a A+ Player ? BP (? BP)

As an A+ Rank you gain by winning against
a D or D+ or C or C+ player: 1 BP
a B player: 5 BP
a B+ player: 15 BP
a A Player: 20 BP
a A+ Player ? BP, though 35 BP seems likely

Furthermore, these numbers only apply if the player is in the default range for their ranking ( 10XXX BP/15XXXBP/20XXXBP).
For every started 1000 BP above the default range you will gain one additional BP for the win (f.e: win against a 7345 BP B ranking player with your 15233 BP A rank character and you receive 17 BP)
However you will lose that one additional BP if you are yourself 1000 BP over your default line (winning against that 7345 BP player with your 16899 BP character only grants you 16 BP)
The numbers in the list are the minimum of gained BP. You won’t get fewer Points for wining against someone with that respective rank (win against a 2501 BP B rank player with your 19999 BP A rank character you will receive 15 BP and he will be a C+ player)
The same 1000 BP rule applies for losing points. Here the numbers in brackets are the maximum BP you will lose against the respective rank. (losing against a 9500 BP B rank player with your 15000 BP A rank character would cost you 41 BP instead of 45 BP default; losing to that same character with your 16000 BP A Rank character would cost you 42 BP)

I wish I could give this forum a 100% save way to beat Yun dive kick spam or a fool proof way to open up turtle Hondas, but instead I give you this. I fear that regarding usefull play technics this is not much help but at least I did not wrote a wall of text demanding i-frames on every move or a 60 frames tech window.
Oh, did I mention that points don’t mean shit? I may have but this must have been sometime before somewhere above…

Vegaman · 2011-10-18T21:15:34.000Z

star:

And now for something completely related:

Total Play Time: 290h
Battle points 20015
Rank A+
Next Rank: 9985

Number of ranked fights: 3577 (Total: 4079)
Wins: 3009
Win Rate: 84.12%
Perfects:205
Normal Wins: 5374
Ultra Wins: 569
Super Wins: 216
Cheap Wins: 179
Time Over Wins: 8
Longest win streak: 48

I skip the character percentage this time, not much changed there except that I don’t have so much problems with guy any more.
Instead to contribute a small amount of usefull Information for a change, here are the BP Points received for winning against the different fighting classes. The A and A+ BP are for certain, B+ on the other hand is long ago. I will edit these numbers once I play with my PS3 account again.

As a B+ Rank you gain by winning against
a D or D+ player: 1 BP
a C player: 5 BP
a C+ player: 15 BP
a B player: 25 BP
a B+ player: 35 BP
a A Player: 45 BP
a A+ Player ? BP

As an A Rank you gain(lose) by winning (losing) against
a D or D+ or C player: 1 BP (10 BP; 10 BP; 20 BP)
a C+ player: 5 BP (35 BP)
a B player 15 BP (45 BP)
a B+ player: 20 BP (40 BP)
a A Player: 35 BP (35 BP)
a A+ Player ? BP (? BP)

As an A+ Rank you gain by winning against
a D or D+ or C or C+ player: 1 BP
a B player: 5 BP
a B+ player: 15 BP
a A Player: 20 BP
a A+ Player ? BP, though 35 BP seems likely

Furthermore, these numbers only apply if the player is in the default range for their ranking ( 10XXX BP/15XXXBP/20XXXBP).
For every started 1000 BP above the default range you will gain one additional BP for the win (f.e: win against a 7345 BP B ranking player with your 15233 BP A rank character and you receive 17 BP)
However you will lose that one additional BP if you are yourself 1000 BP over your default line (winning against that 7345 BP player with your 16899 BP character only grants you 16 BP)
The numbers in the list are the minimum of gained BP. You won’t get fewer Points for wining against someone with that respective rank (win against a 2501 BP B rank player with your 19999 BP A rank character you will receive 15 BP and he will be a C+ player)
The same 1000 BP rule applies for losing points. Here the numbers in brackets are the maximum BP you will lose against the respective rank. (losing against a 9500 BP B rank player with your 15000 BP A rank character would cost you 41 BP instead of 45 BP default; losing to that same character with your 16000 BP A Rank character would cost you 42 BP)

I wish I could give this forum a 100% save way to beat Yun dive kick spam or a fool proof way to open up turtle Hondas, but instead I give you this. I fear that regarding usefull play technics this is not much help but at least I did not wrote a wall of text demanding i-frames on every move or a 60 frames tech window.
Oh, did I mention that points don’t mean shit? I may have but this must have been sometime before somewhere above…

just fyi but you get more points for not losing a round than if you lose a round on a winning match.

you also dont lose as many points if you win a round on a lost match

Francys_Pai · 2011-10-18T22:05:52.000Z

Point still mean nothing. Trollface

Seriously absolutely nout will change that. I’ll reel off my stats when I go home on Friday. 90% of it probably encompasses Ryu, since that’s all Europe seem to know how to play.

Or as I say when I play Endless when someone does the Ryu, Ken, Gouki, E.Ryu combo;
Start with Ryu: My other main is a shoto (Ken) and when I’m not maining a shoto, I’m maining a shoto (Gouki) and when I’m not maining another shoto I’m maining an Angsty shoto (E.Ryu).

This is usually Online in a nutshell, but I find the whole Ryu Ryu Ryu Ken Ken occurs more in ranked and 90% of the time it’s lolDP in links.
I should seriously record an entire two hours of ranked just to show you the amazing diversity we have here (Read it with sarcasm).

Rugalitarian · 2011-10-18T22:13:50.000Z

Meh… I haven’t played AE for about 3 and a half weeks now. Tired of all the bullshit.

BUT LOL NOW IVE PICKED UP MVC3 FOR EVEN MORE BULLSHIT =D

Good post though… I never really understood how these points were distributed.

Vegaman · 2011-10-18T22:16:52.000Z

Francys_Pai:

Point still mean nothing. Trollface

Seriously absolutely nout will change that. I’ll reel off my stats when I go home on Friday. 90% of it probably encompasses Ryu, since that’s all Europe seem to know how to play.

Or as I say when I play Endless when someone does the Ryu, Ken, Gouki, E.Ryu combo;
Start with Ryu: My other main is a shoto (Ken) and when I’m not maining a shoto, I’m maining a shoto (Gouki) and when I’m not maining another shoto I’m maining an Angsty shoto (E.Ryu).

This is usually Online in a nutshell, but I find the whole Ryu Ryu Ryu Ken Ken occurs more in ranked and 90% of the time it’s lolDP in links.
I should seriously record an entire two hours of ranked just to show you the amazing diversity we have here (Read it with sarcasm).

yeah… you’d think that people would learn to stop mashing dp after i poke but nooooooooooo

then I’m the stupid one for trying to frame trap thinking they’d learn.

Rugalitarian:

Meh… I haven’t played AE for about 3 and a half weeks now. Tired of all the bullshit.

BUT LOL NOW IVE PICKED UP MVC3 FOR EVEN MORE BULLSHIT =D

Good post though… I never really understood how these points were distributed.

i will never commit such atrocities

star · 2011-10-18T22:59:35.000Z

Vegaman:

just fyi but you get more points for not losing a round than if you lose a round on a winning match.

you also dont lose as many points if you win a round on a lost match

Hey, who spent 1 1/2 weeks almost entirely in ranked mode and counted every one of those those precious precious points? Source, source now! Else I would dare to say you are wrong, sir!

Francys_Pai:

Point still mean nothing. Trollface

I know. All I wanted was this perfectly painted A+ before my stats, so now every time I go into an Endless Lobby it is even more embarrassing when I get bodied by a 0 BP player.

Francys_Pai · 2011-10-18T23:33:35.000Z

star:

when I get bodied by a 0 BP player.

This is half the reason I have 0BP/0PP on my main PSN account (The one I played ranked on was an experiment and an account I havent used in about two years laughs). Unfortunately I’m still stuck with 0BP/91PP (Thanks to my other half, the points are with Dudley. Grr). Seeing the 91 bugs me. UNEVEN NUMBERS AURGH!
I’ve been called out a lot on it. Some in a really bad way of “Lol no points, what a scrub.” and “Holy shit. You’re this good and no points?” It can go either way. I’m not bothered by it but grargh uneven numbers bother me, not just in games either.

And I don’t like getting into the habit of not attempting to punish something punishable incase it lagspikes. I get these lagspikes more in ranked because when it comes to Endless, if they lag, I kick them until I find someone who doesn’t and I play them for a while if they’re actually giving me practice. If I’m perfecting them left right and center, I’m not learning and neither are they, so I’m better off finding someone else.

Eh, I’m not too bothered though, I have a pretty big offline community to practice with so online is more of just something to do in the evening when I’m bored shitless after a few hours of training mode and don’t have much else to do.

Drakonvlast · 2011-10-18T23:43:31.000Z

i just looked and i have a 12.5% win rate against viper and a 8.33% rate against Abel. I don’t think i’ve fought against an abel who wasn’t better than me

Vegaman · 2011-10-19T00:06:23.000Z

star:

Hey, who spent 1 1/2 weeks almost entirely in ranked mode and counted every one of those those precious precious points? Source, source now! Else I would dare to say you are wrong, sir!

I know. All I wanted was this perfectly painted A+ before my stats, so now every time I go into an Endless Lobby it is even more embarrassing when I get bodied by a 0 BP player.

source: SSF4: AE

Vegaman · 2011-10-19T00:08:02.000Z

Francys_Pai:

Eh, I’m not too bothered though, I have a pretty big offline community to practice with so online is more of just something to do in the evening when I’m bored*** shitless*** after a few hours of training mode and don’t have much else to do.

i read shirtless

Francys_Pai · 2011-10-19T00:09:22.000Z

Vegaman:

i read shirtless

No comfier way to play.
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I find the Viper matchup oddly fun. I don’t know what it is about her, I just enjoy it. Don’t find many of them online though, or even offline to be fair.

Vegaman · 2011-10-19T00:11:14.000Z

Francys_Pai:

No comfier way to play.
</derail>

I find the Viper matchup oddly fun. I don’t know what it is about her, I just enjoy it. Don’t find many of them online though, or even offline to be fair.

i find it fun till i get KD… then it aint fun. up until that point though, dealing with both air and ground spacing is really awesome it’s really a 2 dimensional game

Crush2000 · 2011-10-19T00:11:44.000Z

I have to disagree… All online is not shit, rank of course is BS but who takes it seriously to begin with only time I took rank seriously is if I knew this person wasn’t just some random trying to abuse lag tatics and actually plays the match up. And 9 times out of 10 endless will be garbage too if the room is full of randoms.

Edit: Any one here played hugo101’s rufus or bison besides me, I managed to pull a win or two on his rufus but his bison is on a completely different playing field. His Abel and Seth are also decent.

Vegaman · 2011-10-19T00:24:00.000Z

Crush2000:

I have to disagree… All online is not shit, rank of course is BS but who takes it seriously to begin with only time I took rank seriously is if I knew this person wasn’t just some random trying to abuse lag tatics and actually plays the match up. And 9 times out of 10 endless will be garbage too if the room is full of randoms.

Edit: Any one here played hugo101’s rufus or bison besides me, I managed to pull a win or two on his rufus but his bison is on a completely different playing field. His Abel and Seth are also decent.

so… what part of online isnt shit?

Crush2000 · 2011-10-19T00:32:04.000Z

Vegaman:

so… what part of online isnt shit?

Offline is better without a doubt, though people try to make it seem every single match or every single set online is shit and you can’t possibly learn anything by playing online which is not true it’s all about the person.

star · 2011-10-19T00:48:19.000Z

Vegaman:

source: SSF4: AE

Well then, here you have it: nope the number of rounds fought or the amount of health spared does not affect the result of distributed battle points after the game. point.

Vegaman · 2011-10-19T00:49:35.000Z

Crush2000:

Offline is better without a doubt, though people try to make it seem every single match or every single set online is shit and you can’t possibly learn anything by playing online which is not true it’s all about the person.

you can learn life lessons living in a cardboard box…

that doesnt make it less shitty to live in

Vegaman · 2011-10-19T00:51:06.000Z

star:

Well then, here you have it: nope the number of rounds fought or the amount of health spared does not affect the result of distributed battle points after the game. point.

nope but the number of rounds the loser of the match wins does matter. You get more points for beating the same person 2-0 than 2-1

star · 2011-10-19T10:24:50.000Z

No you don’t. I’m so glad we solved this.

Th3_JoK3R_J · 2011-10-20T17:41:51.000Z

The only reason i play rank cuz if i lose i get to find another fight really quick after that one i just loss instead of waiting till it’s my turn again.

Points doesn’t really exist to me.