Persona 4: The Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena

Kane · August 4, 2012, 1:40am

I might have found a place that broke the street date. Hopefully they still have copies left, gotta get ready for the wnf tourneys and Revelations. Time to take Elizabeth and Yu to the lab.

SUPARNOVAX · August 4, 2012, 1:49am

Got it urley!

PozerWolf · August 4, 2012, 1:56am

SBO will determine my character. I don’t know who to stay with :x

stickystaines · August 4, 2012, 5:13am

One more podcast. Coopa, VibratingSheep and Creeper Dacid

deadacid · August 4, 2012, 5:29am

Might get an early copy tonight! I can bear-ly wait!

d0c_zaius · August 4, 2012, 5:46am

urleh teddy squad represent

Qwezzy · August 4, 2012, 6:17am

Lucky bums getting it urleh T~T! Here’s another couple of questions in the meantime:

I know its already been mentioned/asked so sorry if this is the bazzilionth time but to those of you who actually have the game, how accessible/hard a game is it for a newb like me who’s never played an anime type game before and is still trying to get the fundamentals down from other fighters?
Is button-mapping stuff like OMC’s and R-actions allowed?

Narcowski · August 4, 2012, 6:27am

1: This is supposedly one of the easier anime fighters to get into, and new-school fundamentals are a little different anyways since you’re worrying about more than one axis of movement and pressure is generally stronger for everyone.
2: Yes.

tataki · August 4, 2012, 7:07am

If you play on a stick then learn to tap multiple buttons like a big boy.

Ratio_4_Cerebella · August 4, 2012, 7:19am

As someone who’s played fighting games competitively for a long, long while, the burst input is awkward and stupid.

Map away folks. It doesn’t really make a difference. Mapping has been legal forever, just don’t expect to walk into an arcade and have things carry over

Qwezzy · August 4, 2012, 7:45am

ugh I know I know lol its just having to tap 3-4 buttons at once while in the middle of an already seemingly complex combo…its gonna take my fingers a WHILE to get used to especially since this is my first anime fighter…but yeah you’re right …maybe there’ll be some tutorials on dustloop or YouTube?

tataki · August 4, 2012, 8:45am

It’s 3, not 4. Tapping 4 in this layout doesn’t make any sense so they won’t expect it from you. And don’t worry. Nothing is as hard as it seems. Just progress in small steps. Don’t start by trying to do the ideal combos posted in guides. Work your way up.

Ichipoo · August 4, 2012, 9:29am

I as well! :lovin:

LivewireX · August 4, 2012, 9:56am

And now all I got is salty…

TrulyAmiracle · August 4, 2012, 10:51am

T_______T I wanna plaaaaaay, torturing myself with vids isnt helping at all lol…

Jack_Frost · August 4, 2012, 12:42pm

um

lol?

NB2 · August 4, 2012, 1:54pm

If you’re in NYC and you’re looking for it, they have it on Jamaica Ave, if you know what spot I’m talking about. I picked it up yesterday evening. About to pop it in now.

PozerWolf · August 4, 2012, 11:46pm

Wondering how most of you guys feel about this:

Me:

So, the other day I was watching the stream of this game from players some where in Cali. I haven’t touched the game yet, but was interested in seeing how the game worked (aside from A-cho videos, I haven’t seen much of the game at all).

Now, the biggest problem I notice when watching the game is unfriendly terminology. Before I begin to state the faults of what I’m implying here, let me explain something. Normally when watching StarCraft 2 streams, the commentators usually treat the audiences as if they’ve never played StarCraft 2 before. Sometimes while watching a stream, a player would use a race ability that existed in part 1, and I was question, “Why the hell did he do that?” and the commentators would answer like if they heard you. And that’s just one example of great commentary!
Here’s the problem I ran into when watching the stream from Cali; "OMG HE’S USED HIS R-ACTION!!!"
People not familiar with this game and are trying to get into it will ask, “WTF is an R-Action?!” and never was it explained on the stream. Of course, doing research would solve the problem, however when you’re bombarded with many other terminology that only exists in Persona 4 Arena, the viewer is turned off and there’s a chance they will leaves the stream. You do not want that happening.

Okay, well that’s the players fault for not doing research to begin with, right? I mean, if the person is so interested in the game, he would’ve at least considered doing some research before hand, and then viewing the stream.
WRONG!! And if you think that, you’re a fuckin’ retard (I just mentioned 80% of dustloop members here, but let’s hope they get this message across regardless how much people care for that place).

Using the StarCraft 2 commentary work as an example (once again), remember how I mention that they treat players as if they never played part 2 (but hint they may hint that those viewers played part 1). Well, that example was used for a tournament I witness just a few months ago on a game that’s already over a year old. So if they’re still treating players like as if they haven’t played part 2 yet, then why stop there? You want to make the commentary as viewer friendly as possible (and of course, adding jokes. No one minds jokes).
But StarCraft isn’t a fighting game, and the way commentary works in that— No, STFU if you are thinking this. Get that shit out of your head, right now!

Persona 4 Arena is a fighting game, so figuring out other terminology that everyone is familiar with would be best to use in order to describe the situation happening in the game. And because of this, it’s easy to relate the situation with another move to help describe to the viewers what’s going on. An example; calling R-Action “Reversals” or possibly “DP” (aka Dragon Punch. Maybe calling it ‘Uppercut’ in case not many people are familiar with the term DP) would help the viewer understand what is being implied.
But every character has specific R-Action and they all do different things! - And if you continue to think like this, it’s becomes a problem. Your objective is to help the viewer understand what’s going on in the match by describe what’s happening in the fight in the best possible way. You need to relate with the viewers in order to gain some understanding on what’s happening. R-Action, for the most part, have a specific goal for the character and that’s to GTFO of the situation they are in. And for that matter, most R-Action in the game are Dragon Punches (Shoryuken, if you will). And by the way, this is just one example.

I dunno, I feel like it would be for the best. But who knows…

Saitsu · August 4, 2012, 11:50pm

Commentators in the first month or two will spend endless amounts of time explaining to viewers exactly what’s going on in a match, KOFXIII went through the same deal, so it shouldn’t be a problem.

PozerWolf · August 5, 2012, 12:00am

I think we’ve already been through this a million times, but you seem to never be right about anything.