you still can, and you know it, your argument is flawed because you know very well that it doesnt prevents you of doing it
and yes, there are wrong ways on how yo play the games, you certainly dont want to keep blocking on KOFXIII, or CVS2, sooner or later, you need to take action to stop the preasure or you would be in a guard break state
the mechanic has not been on HNK, SBX, BF, so no, is not present on all of their games
again, deal with it, every games has a mechanic like that, guard bars, parry, the ips, the only reason why you hate this one in particular, its because force a different type of keep away, one that is more than just lololol i run to the corner and then super jump and or air dash and run to the other corner again, lololol
guess what
Sorry i fail to see anything outside of the “random factor” principle in fighter games being something to get angry about, because everything else happens because a player decides to do a certain action and they have to accept both the rewards and consequences of that said action. Honestly the “decrease defense penalty” until you decided to stop air dashing back all day and doing no damage what so ever is hardly a penalty that affects your gameplay style choice(especially since the point of keep-away style is to **avoid **getting hit in the first place ) so guess what… you **CAN **just air dash back for the whole 99 seconds if you so wished. Its not like your speed or jumping got decreased or anything.
This feels like one of those arguing for the sake of arguing moments
fair enough, just dont bring misinformation like that you cant turtle/run away again, and we are fine, because you can, the mechanic doesn not prevent you of doing it
Im fine with running my mouth if I’m educating any lurkers reading these posts so no skin off my back
Of course you can like/dislike anything you want. Its basic human rights which i respect, but don’t start a discussion without any valid points supporting your said philosophy claims and fall back on the “i’ll disregard everything thats been discussed and cover my ears” card. Anyway, finished with this debate
It’s an utterly useless, archaic mechanic that should have been done away years ago, I never understood it’s implementation from the start and NO game should punish you for how you play. That’s the job of my opponent, not the game.
The mechanic explicitly punishes you for doing it though. I can’t even count how many times I lost meter to negative penalty in BB because sometimes you just gotta backdash 3-4 times in a row to create some breathing ground. You can do that, but the game backhands you tells you you’re doing it wrong for playing the game how you like.
Being lame and playing keepaway is a completely valid playstyle, making them come to you to dictate the pace of the match is smart and often the right play in a lot of matchups. That the game will explicitly punish you for creating space is a dumb mechanic and for the most part only celebrated by scrubs who think playing defensively is ‘cheap’ or boring because it’s not as flashy as lockdown strings or cool combos.
not you didnt, it has been already explained to you countless times not only by me but many other GG/BB players why the mechanic is there, why it doesnt detract whatever you claim it does and how it helps in the grand scheme of the context of the game.
at this point, you simply dont want to accept it why is there because you loathe it
lol, i guess that you mean GG because on BB it doesnt take matter away, and you need to (not) do more than 3-4 back dashes to get the negative penalty, not to mention that you get first the negative warning
and LMAO at the scrubs comment, the mechanic doesnt prevent the run away, if you truly belive it then you dont know how to play the games, because at the high level play (hell not even at mid level) the negative penalty doesnt affect the run away, turtling and playing lame
Well it’s like saying you can’t do ‘x’ in our game because we want you to do ‘y’ instead. You can do stuff that looks like ‘x’ but you just can’t do ‘x’. Sure that’s way too black and white as a scenario but when you start doing / do ‘x’ the game punishes you. Every game they’ve made (that matters) has had the mechanic and it’s proven to be so useless that I have to question why it’s still in there and how badly they must hate a certain type of play that almost never comes up in play. I mean think about it, they have to hate that manner of play so badly that a decade later the fucking mechanic is still there just in case someone wanted to play that way.
I’m sorry, but is this dragging on about the this games’ rare specific game mechanic “penalty” which is a “temporary defense decrease” which should not affect at all on how your keep away gameplay functions or is this turning into a discussion about the ethics of gameplay style penalties as a whole?
If this is the latter, then this thread will go off topic again inevitably at this pace. I believe this discussion should continue onto another thread or it will make this thread go off topic for a few pages like how people debated about the ethics of region- locking, not necessarily even about this game.
Might as well turn this into a Spider-man thread since its the same thing
and again, is not there to prevent the gameplay, stop saying that bullcrap that is false and you know it
every action has a reaction on their games as a way to keep the risk reward ratio balanced, its prooven that its not useless, since it allows the gameplay styles that you say that doent allow, but at the same time serves the purpouse of why is there
as a reminder that you have to take some sort of action and not be totally passive, and at the same time as a reminder that you also have different defense option that you can use
If I want to back dash the entire god damn time I’m playing, no matter how shitty of a game plan that is there is no way I’m going to accept a fighting game punishing me for it. I would learn through getting my ass beat that the tactic is utter shit then to have the game literally police me into it otherwise.
It’s not bullcrap nor false. Go ahead and tell me the game won’t punish me if I do exactly what it doesn’t want me to.
im not trying to understand why, and i dont care, i only want you to stop saying stupid shit like it prevents runaway, turtling, playing lame, etc, because there are enough stupid posters on srk for that already
the last thing that we need is misinformation about the games, that shit is one of the reasons of why many of the lesser played games are so hated on srk, many people posting/spreading bullcrap that only serve to maintain the ignorance about how those games are played and work
and i want to block all day on kofxiii, cvs2, mb
i want to throw fireballs all day on sf3/4, BF
i want to be able to do loops on sg and its going to be more funny when the patch comes out and starts cunting 6P,5P,2P,3P as the same shit because in no way many combos would be loops in reality but certainly the ips would think otherwise
i want to throw my opponents without them teching them
i want to have a wakeup setup on sfxt without my opponent rolling
so what is your point?
