Pandora can give you guaranteed 50%+ kills off of a poke with 1 bar. I don’t see why that’s bad to use it. I can do it both ways with Ryu and Rufus, just poking with c.mk buffered into EX donkey kick/EX Galactic Tornado. It gives you guaranteed kills which you otherwise couldn’t do.
Could also probably chip someone out with it as a block string with EX moves. Maybe something like ABC EX fireball, ABC EX fireball, ABC EX fireball, AB Shinkuu could do decent chip. Something I haven’t tested though, but things like that may be discovered in the future.
There is enough options in the game without pandora. The flexibility of tagging is enough IMO.
I think it’s pretty obvious what kind of idea was behind Pandora.
An ingeniously stupid one in case you weren’t aware
More like ingeniously awesome. I mean, make the scrubs think they have a comeback mechanic, yet at the same time, make it absolutely useless so that real comebacks are still earned with skill.
In fact, if I were to make a tier list of comeback mechanics, Pandora would be S-tier because it’s useless.
Its so funny that although you have max gauge in pandora, some times you have to wait for it to fill up (there u go 1-2 seconds), and then you would not ever try to do the super because the pandora wears off half way through the animations.
Unless Pandora instantly fill up meter, have some damage boost, and timer and pandora clock stops during animations, and ofc pandora time extend to like 10 or 15 secs, then it can be useful
Get in in your heads scrubs: WE DO NOT WANT PANDORA TO BE USEFUL!!!
Pandora should also replace all character SFX with Rubber Duck noises
Oh god this. I was afraid of this too. X-factor is a scrub mechanic, period. “Oh but you can do good combos and it takes skills to use it blah blah” No it doesn’t. You want a good combo mechanic that allows combo extensions then bring back fucking baroque. I feel its perfect the way it is. Requires gems to make better, and sucks on its own.
Yeah but if you do it off like a wallbounce, you should have enough meter by the time they’re next to you to super. With Ryu you can do c.mp, c.mk xx c.hp, ex fireball, super with still some time to spare starting with just over 0 meter. You easily can just chuck the super on without the ex fireball. His and Rufus’ supers both end pretty quick, so they always fit on the end of pandora combos pretty easily.
edit: I’m not trying to say Pandora is good, it does suck. Just with every game, you gotta weigh your options. There are times when Pandora is the best option. I’ve stated a few, but there are bound to be others that are known and more to be found.
Pandora is ass.
That makes me happy and crying sad at the same time. TvC… 
Honestly, they should just keep X-factor at level 1 levels and then tie it to meter instead of making it a 1 time thing. It would be like V-ISM/A-Groove in Mahvell.
Imo we’ll find much more uses for pandora when we continue to discover how the game is played. It’s a really hype feature, not lolultracombo 60% free damage.
I’m sure we’ve all been in situations were we could have activated pandora and took the round but we just forget it’s there. I remember a Raven landed a jump back HK against me and I wasn’t worried because I still had a good 45%, but then he pandora cancels into Ryu’s super for an easy K.O. If you have no meter, managed to land a floor bounce or a crumple, going into a Pandora super will give you 50% if that’s enough for you to kill.
Also Ibuki can SJC Pandora meaning she can basically cancel into it. There has to be some potential there.
The only time I have ever activated Pandora in a match was by mistake and I went “ahh crap…” lol
But I do believe it is a tool that people have just not spent much time experimenting with yet. So while it currently seems like a useless tool (other then newb bait for them to buy into the games hype), we may find ourselves putting it into our own bag of tricks once all its possibilities have been explored.
Pandora is a long way from being the new “X-Factor” even Ultra combo’s are more powerful in terms of their usefulness. This isn’t about exploiting Pandora to make it “ZOMG AUTO-VICTORY MODE!!!” Even this topic is mainly about it being even usable. As it is now, Pandora can only be used reliably with a gem load-out to support it.
It sucks.
I don’t know if it is good or bad, but it sure made me win this round.
Of course, this isn’t pro match or anything…
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That was a surprisingly good call - that Yoshimitsu player got REALLY overconfident. Yoshimitsu could have dash cancelled backward but it was far too late to get the reaction. This video shows that Pandora can also be used as a wild card - a element of surprise. Some unexpected and bizarre. While it is not practical, the player can still work hard for their victory and go for the win while utilizing the Pandora system.
I think what helped there too is that Juri has a very short super animation, maybe 2-3 seconds at most. Never thought to use Pandora/Super in that kind of situation… good stuff.
Actually what I also think contributed to the slow reaction is the Yoshi didn’t notice he had the Speed Pandora gem which activates on Pandora and gives like 20% speed increase or something. So his jump in was much quicker than Juri’s usual jump in. Good strategy
Here’s the problem: what is the point of adding it in if it’s useless? I don’t see an urgent need to make it useful but Pandora is the prime example of how lacking in direction and badly designed the game has been. That’s why I want Pandora to be useful in some way, so that we at least have evidence that Capcom knows what they are doing. It doesn’t need to be OMG stupid like UmvC3, or even something you encourage people to use whenever they are losing badly.