Have to agree with acerbic there. Though none of the “major” outlets are too bad if you stay away from the editorials. CNN does have a bad habit of obsessing over trivialities in some weird attempt to appeal to the internet crowd though.
Well we already knew Canadians are dumb.
edit: Random thought: Since everyone is in here bashing faith ( no problem with that though ). Did we ever get any proof?
If Obama telling people that Bin Laden was dead wasn’t proof enough, you’re clearly just a conspiracy theorist nutjob. :razzy:
(still thinking about that pork rind comment and trying not to feel insulted)
I really wish people would define what “proof” they’d actually believe when they ask that question. This is generally directed towards all people since I know that a lot of people, not necessarily you Alidfe, will backtrack on whatever requirement they wanted for “proof” and then ask for even more “proof” and repeat that infinitely as a way of denial. The whole “Birther” stupidity is a prime example of this what with 33% of Americans still being either not sure that Obama was born in the U.S. or still thinking that he wasn’t even after he bothered to address with something that should have ended it without question.
Sigh. Basically, what I’m getting at is there isn’t any proof that couldn’t be refuted as just hoaxed or verified as 100% real since it’s not like any of the people–mostly dumb-asses–asking for proof personally knew Bin Laden and could thus identify him even if they personally viewed the body firsthand. Many of the same people would just say that photos were faked and some of those people still don’t believe the fact that basically everyone that knew him, including the rest of Al Qaeda, has basically said that he’s dead. Al Qaeda really has no reason to agree with the U.S.–much the opposite, actually, as fishjie pointed out about their missed opinion for destroying credibility–but there are surely, unfortunately, some people who believe Al Qaeda is working with U.S. government or that Bin Laden never even existed in the first place.
So…yeah, what’s “proof”, even in the form of hard evidence, to people who just don’t want to believe the very things they ask proof for?
I stand corrected, though I bolded why I had that impression and thus why I didn’t bother with the website. Trust me, though, I’m well aware how much CNN (and, well, all news [on TV] nowadays) obsesses over trivial things; I don’t think I’ve even ever watched MSNBC in more than in passing, even when everyone was obsessing over To Catch a Predator.
I unfortunately haven’t watched PBS in forever. I really should, though.
Fixed.
I always found that strange about CNN considering that HLN already does the type of news that appeals to the trivial-loving viewer.
LOL, could you imagine bin laden downloading porn onto his usb at some pakistani internet cafe. He had everything, Weed and Porn… lol.
Can I have my rights back?
I’m going to hazard a guess, and go ahead and answer “No.”
We need to stop the terrorists in Washington first.
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hahaa
English is my 1st lang; I have no excuse. SOrry just lazy + very busy usually type with on ehand (EXCUSE!).
But I try not to be too intellectually lazy. I try to consider all possibilities before making up my mind. I think doing otherwise is dangerous. Why would you throw your support behind something before you are able to get a reliable account? You may be throwing your support behind something that may undermine your personal values/beliefs, unless you believe the means justify the ends, then of course you probably dont have any principles at all.
The point of my posts early on was just that given the scant,conflicting info I dont know sh*t and I dont think you(generic) do either. The amount of hate I got for this position was fascinating.
Especially when I simply suggested the plausibility of certain scenarios which seem relatively reasonable given the lack of info. Response was something like: “OK Mr tactical genius I want a map of the middle east and I want to know exactly how this would happen, do tell” Since somehow minds were already made up, no matter what answer I gave (citing the administrations own words/plans) goalposts get moved and pesonal insults substitute for arguments hahaa, fascinating I say.Kind of like how this kid described:
Lack of evidence is my whole point. Hahaa. Heads asking for hard proof that a mere possibility is valid, because they have already made up their mind in the way a certain scenario has transpired based on little to no evidence. I love it
Yes. You have the right to remain silent.
seriously, when exactly were your rights taken away from you.
hate to burst your bubble, but when the most recent study was done and nearly 2,000 people were surveyed, the findings were fox news viewers were the most ill-informed, with CNN coming in a close second for most ill-informed. meanwhile that bastion of crazy libs had the most well informed viewers.
so clearly the tone that fox covers things with is far more important to their viewers than what they report. i mean fuck, last week rather than cover any debt ceiling increases which is important they were all up in arms about that rapper common at the white house. “omg! he said burn a bush in his poem! this negro is DANGEROUS!”
That’s a knock against their editorials and commentary, not the actual news on it.
Which is the real problem. The actual news on Fox isn’t bad. But once they get their editorial speakers on it devolves into completely insanity with Hannity, Beck, Bill. It’s just non stop propaganda and idiocy.
MSNBC isn’t any better. Their news content isn’t very good at all. Their editorial content is a ton of “conservatives are evil, watch out, blargh” nonsense. Though it’s generally smarter than Fox because Maddow and Ed, while biased partisan hacks, don’t simply make things up out of thin air.
CNN is just stupid “I’m Wolf Blitzer, and here is a racoon stuck in a vending machine, more at 11”.
And saying which American cable news had the most informed watchers is like bragging about winning the special olympics. The only good cable news is not American. And the most informed American cable viewers watch the Daily Show, which only adds to the hilarity of the situation.
If someones main news source is any of the American cable news networks, it’s a sure sign they are a moron.
i can certainly agree with these sentiments. it truly is a sad state of affairs when some of the toughest interviews around come from a comedian
I don’t think the problem is interviews honestly, I think the problem is market targeting and ratings.
Network news isn’t that bad, and PBS is great. Because for the most part, they don’t need to have an agenda. The network news is a service that has to be included and they only have a small morning and evening segment in which they try to cover the important aspects of the day. So they just “report” the news. They tell you what’s gone on of value and roll right into prime time programing. From there you draw your own conclusion, and it’s tightly regulated. PBS is largely the same, and their money comes from private donations or the government, so they have no need to compete for advertisement sales.
This is not the case for cable news. Cable news is on 24/7 and reaches a fraction of the viewers that network news does. So they have to have their own thing for which to fill the majority of the day where nothing else is going on. That’s a tough task so what we have are the dreaded “opinion” shows. And that’s where they hire the most obnoxious asshole they possibly can to go deliver their opinions, and it’s all targeted to a demographic.
So what you get are channels that pump out nothing more than circular logic and group think. I can already predict how MSNBC and how Fox are going to spin things before the person opens their mouth.
I don’t think opinions are inherently a problem, and everybody has them. But the people that watch those shows now just watch them for the opinions. Nobody is watching them for the actual news, they are watching them to see some talking head re-enforce their bias. Which leads to a lot of the retardation going on now.
Stewart is an opinion show, but the going opinion is “you are all lying assholes and we are all fucked”, and since on any given day all the other opinion shows have been doing just that, he tends to be correct.
It’s very risky to show evidence of Osama’s death.
You missed my point. And I even typed that with both hanbds.
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