People said 3rd strike was ass, people said SF4 was ass, people said MvC3 was ass, and now people say SfxT is ass.
THE FGC IS AWESOME!
Honestly though, people are just hating on it because that’s what everybody does when a new game comes out- I’m pretty sure by next year SFxT will be a good game with a bunch of patches or a new disc release or whatever. Once the Persona fighting game comes out, I might focus on that though.
I can understand why they’d want to avoid 2v2 in SFxT. Team tournaments are a hassle no doubt, a tournament which is well run has all games going on at the same time simultaneously in order to save time and keep people active during an event. But more often than not a player which is signed up for many games has schedule conflicts, sometimes the bracket just works out that you have a game in SF4 and KOF at the same time, one game has to run a different match or wait for you to end your game, this goes double for a team game, especially one that requires both players at the same time, it’s a nightmare to get the people required in the thick of an event.
However, that being said I want to say this, if SFxT is not ran in a 2v2 format then it’s not worth running at all. SFxT has nothing to offer as a 1v1 game that isn’t available in any other game. In today’s fighting game scene we have alot of games to choose from, Marvel 3, AE, KOF, Skullgirls, MK9, Tekken6, ST/HDR, Blazblue, the list goes on with more and more games all of which are 1v1. So in a sea of games you have to choose which to run. It’s impossible to run them all unless you’re running a weekend long event inside a huge venue and even then you’d have the organizational skills of a magical unicorn to even have a chance of running something like that. So you have to narrow down your choices to a reasonable number and you have to choose based on what you think is best for the scene.
That decision, I think, should be made considering several factors. Popularity, excitement, how other people specifically majors are doing it and finally efficiency
Any tournament ran takes money, and requires a fair amount of people in order to be considered a successful so as an organizer you have to include games that are being played, if we ran Blazblue Soulcaliber and Smashbros we wouldn’t have that great of a turn out (this is only speaking to our scene that lineup elsewhere could be huge and be a great tournament) so we have to field games that draw people in. Considering this SFxT makes some sense, it’s a newer game so we hope it will pull in new faces. This is the bread and butter of SFxT I think, it’s a game build to be fairly noob friendly (not making a judgment call about the game based on that just making the observation) but most casual players which the simplicity of SFxT appeals to does not want to participate in a competitive tournament. However if the game was in a 2v2 format then it may appeal to new faces a bit more, losing is no longer entirely their fault, they get to train with a friend and the games are less intense.
Also when choosing games to field in a tournament you want at least one game that will be exciting, it creates a better mood for the event itself and makes more people want to go next time. It creates a buzz around the day that people who didn’t go hear about and while I can’t say for certain 2v2 will create that excitement I can say with certainty that 1v1 SFxT does not bring it. You can’t manufacture the excitement that resonates in a tournament setting, it’s something that kind of develops naturally, but it develops based on player rivalries, close matches and natural comebacks (note this does not mean lvl3 xfactor, or ultra comebacks I’m talking about good old fashion footsies and solid play when you’re at pixels of life away from death and outplaying your opponent in very tense situations) this tends to happen a lot more when there are four people playing at the same time than with just two. Not to mention the drama within a team itself.
There’s also an appeal to authority to consider, yes I know it’s a logical fallacy to use authority in a debate but it’s slightly valid to use here so hear me out. When you’re running an event you should consider what other people are doing around you, if your players are prepping for evo then you should probably give them an opportunity to practice. Evo has announced that they will be doing a 2v2 format and some events, especially events which provide seeding points for it, should provide players with an opportunity to experience that event. By participating in a 1v1 SFxT event you’re not getting any experience which will help you in the actual major you’re aiming for.
Finally there’s efficiency to consider, as discussed earlier it’s tough to get the people organized for a team event, people have to be ready at the tournament but more than that it depends on people actually having teams ready before the event! Button checks will take double the time, people finding sticks and getting on the right sides is also a pain. This game and this format does not lend itself to being efficient in the thick of a tournament environment, however I’d like to propose a solution to this. Make SFxT 2v2 a major event. Have every other event done before you even start the 2v2 event. All matches are played on stream and all players had to pre register before the event. Now you get to organize specifically around the 2v2, there’s no other games going on except casuals, runbacks and money matches (err “Capcom unity points” matches) if you had allot of signups make it 3/5 single elimination. If you run double elimination you might want to add another setup for the event but make it a fairly open setup so spectators can watch. Now you have created a pretty awesome event imho, you have local players bidding for teammates, you have a main event which can pull spectators and create a buzz about your tournament with and you have provided a window of opportunity for people to get casuals and runbacks in during a tournament (which is almost never done)
Sorry about the long post, this has been on my mind for awhile now and since I’m supposed to be doing homework my mind, of course, chooses this to ruminate about. I also think that as a local we should play with gem loadouts and that too should be preregistered but that’s not really as big a deal to me as doing the 2v2 event.
Last tournament mvc3 was hype. '(Stll think mv3 is the worse game) Every other game was meh to watch. I think 2vs2 would be fun to watch but would still like to have 1vs1. Kof13 and St should be there too.
Any game is fun to watch if you have a couple of really good announcers that can build the hype and bring in your attention. Watching a stream, replay, or video of any game can be just boring if there is little to no human involvement. The only exception is when I’m trying to learn how to do something.
UMvC3 is my favorite to watch because the players and announcers really get into it and build up the atmosphere most of the time. SFIV through AE was good to watch, but I’ve seen a significant drop in the hype for these matches. It’s a good game, but most of the time it’s not fun to watch anymore.
I dislike SFxT because it feels like ass to play. I can’t say that I full on hate it, I just dislike it. Ever since I played it at PAX last year, I just didn’t like how the game felt. Then again, I hated MvC3 when it came out. But I sat down and played endlessly until I got better and grew fond of the game. I was thinking that might happen with SFxT, but it just hasn’t yet.
I made a gem loadout for everyone that only has the expert input gem on. What it basically does is make your inputs more strict and gets rid of some shortcuts so it feels more like 3rd Strike. It gives no benefit to your moves, but does help fine tune your execution in general.
3rd Strike, strict inputs? I must have been playing a different game than y’all all those years.
(BTW, I suck horribly at 3rd Strike and either you or Lewis should money match me at it.)
Is there anything going on Friday??
Sorry chad I forgot to call to tell you that drew was having his game night.
Thanks drew for having the game night the online matches where fun.
i tink im the worse tekken6 player in olympia…im currently 9 w 49L…Come at me bro!
Going to play some HDR to build my self esteem…
No rcaido you are not the worst, most of the ofc crew don’t play the game so your like the third best tekken 6 player in our community. 
Hay Josh are you going to update the tech hit thread I forgot when the next tournament going to be?
Are you trying to pick up Tekken aswell? I just bought a copy of Tekken 6 to get prepared to Tag2, and I have no clue on how to play this game.
It’s the only fighter I can play on pad. To injured tu use stick at the moment. Tekken is frustrating game with lots of cheese characters. I also hate the walls in this game. It’s the only game I know that someone can close their eyes and still beat me more then half the time.
Playing Tekken 6 online is already asking for a heart attack.
is the online bad?
Ya its horrible! But people need their fix if you know what I mean.
On another note DON’T EVER ORDER anything from fullpcservice.com
They listed a specific monitor that I ordered and after I put in my payment info they sent me an email stating that the item is no longer in stock and that they have a"better" monitor they are willing to ship to me. I did not reply because I didn’t want that monitor. You think that common sense would tell this business that we should refund this man the money and cancel the order immediately.
Did that happen? NOPE! So I get charged and I am like WTF!?! They violated me financially by reaching into my wallet without my approval.
NEVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THEM!
that explains my losses online oh yeah. how do you beat mashers like lee law Eddie or.that chainsaw chick. i swear.their attacks just beats out all my hits
There’s too much to tell. Next Mother Russia I’ll show you how to beat them with any character you like.
alright cool ill see if can do mother Russia this week.
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