(OLD) "Dear Doctor!" Ken Match-up and Insight: Ask a question, get an answer!

[Bryanv2]

What are some ken players’s favorite matchups? He’s my secondary but I don’t really know any good reasons to counterpick.

Anyone that is low-mid tier really haha. When I see a guile im always like ‘‘Yes : D’’ though. Prob cause he doesn’t got that much moves, and isn’t top.

uhm Guile…Balrog lately cause hes a damn challenge… Yea anyone that is mid-low tier lol.

Ryu eh, to shoryukeny and solid for me lol, zangief screw him, blanka screw him, sagat is fine, although I still get beaten randomly sometimes.

[Dr.Chaos]

blanka is a match-up where you really have to figure out what he is doing and work to deny him that tool. if he’s using a lot of horizontal blanka balls then you need to stuff those with cr. mp or lp once that tool is gone you should expect slides (bait them with a fireball every once in a while but don’t get predictable), rainbow balls (focus them) or hops which he can follow up with throws. also be mindfull that if he balls at you and he is moving very slow it’s very likely that he spaced it to stop before hitting you so he can throw or electricity mix-up. as for dealing with electricity spam it’s possible to jump in and stuff that shit with lk, your aiming to hit him either on the forhead for a jump-in and on the back of his neck for a cross-up, either way he will have to upball if he wants to AA you.

don’t get too aggressive against him and realize that he has almost no save methods of approach so just get yourself a lead and make him move so he losses his charge, once he doesn’t have that then your free to press the offense, but if he has a charge do NOT give in to his game unless you have to.

:lovin::lovin:

Also c.short c.jab .c.forward shoryu is very easy to connect on blanka regardless if hes standing or crouching.

[khayri]

:lovin::lovin:

Also c.short c.jab .c.forward shoryu is very easy to connect on blanka regardless if hes standing or crouching.

^Tiba special!

[CCiNO]

Vs C Viper, does c.MK under Vipers flaming kick always clear? Chaos, I see you using it a lot in the Season’s Beating match vs Wolfkrone:

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[Dr.Chaos]

Vs C Viper, does c.MK under Vipers flaming kick always clear? Chaos, I see you using it a lot in the Season’s Beating match vs Wolfkrone:

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I think it depends on how late Viper does the flame kick, it doesn’t always work if im not mistaken. Don’t be afraid to use it once in awhile, I kind of abused it a bit to much that match though.

[System_1]

I need help remedying M. Bison’s standing roundhouse, it seems to stuff every Ken’s moves. Focusing works but it’s a hit or miss for me. Any insight on approaching this?

[System_1]

Hey what do you guys do against turtles?

Like the ones who spend most of the time holding down back with honda,blanka or boxer. Can’t jump in and when i get close to try to kara throw them they stick out pokes. Kara focus gets pwned by honda and blanka but not as badly with boxer.

How do you get in against these people?

[notdijon]

Any insights on Seth? I’ve only fought one good Seth, and he made me look retarded. How do I get in? If I get put at fullscreen while he has ultra, is there ANY way to not get ultra’d?

[Dr.Chaos]

Hey what do you guys do against turtles?

Like the ones who spend most of the time holding down back with honda,blanka or boxer. Can’t jump in and when i get close to try to kara throw them they stick out pokes. Kara focus gets pwned by honda and blanka but not as badly with boxer.

How do you get in against these people?

Just play patient walk block and poke. Watch your feet vs Honda and Balrog.

Any insights on Seth? I’ve only fought one good Seth, and he made me look retarded. How do I get in? If I get put at fullscreen while he has ultra, is there ANY way to not get ultra’d?

Around 5:20 starts me vs Funkdoc hes probably one of the Best Seths in US. He beat me before @ another tourney earlier this year. http://frame-advantage.com/beta/street-fighter-4/84-seasons-beatings-4-teams/730-team-drmoosemaniac-vs-team-wetookyaspot

[notdijon]

Around 5:20 starts me vs Funkdoc hes probably one of the Best Seths in US. He beat me before @ another tourney earlier this year.

Lol, speak of the devil, josh the Funkdoc is the seth who destroyed me. Thanks for the reply.

[System_1]

Can someone do a quick write up on blanka? Don’t even know what to do when i knock him down. Keeps ex-vertiballing me when i cross up and when i block it can’t really put him back on the ground which is kinda frustating.

[maChubbyBeaver]

Can someone do a quick write up on blanka? Don’t even know what to do when i knock him down. Keeps ex-vertiballing me when i cross up and when i block it can’t really put him back on the ground which is kinda frustating.

From a couple of posts directly above:

blanka is a match-up where you really have to figure out what he is doing and work to deny him that tool. if he’s using a lot of horizontal blanka balls then you need to stuff those with cr. mp or lp once that tool is gone you should expect slides (bait them with a fireball every once in a while but don’t get predictable), rainbow balls (focus them) or hops which he can follow up with throws. also be mindfull that if he balls at you and he is moving very slow it’s very likely that he spaced it to stop before hitting you so he can throw or electricity mix-up. as for dealing with electricity spam it’s possible to jump in and stuff that shit with lk, your aiming to hit him either on the forhead for a jump-in and on the back of his neck for a cross-up, either way he will have to upball if he wants to AA you.

don’t get too aggressive against him and realize that he has almost no save methods of approach so just get yourself a lead and make him move so he losses his charge, once he doesn’t have that then your free to press the offense, but if he has a charge do NOT give in to his game unless you have to.

[System_1]

Yeah i read that but what are ken’s options when i knock him down? I can beat out his non ex vertiball and electricity with j.lk but not the ex stuff. So are we limited to only crossing up when blanka has no ex meter at all? Kinda limits the options.

Is hop + vertiball free chip damage for blanka? can’t seem to punish that at all. Somtimes the step kicks hit and sometimes he manages to get another horizontal ball before my step kicks hit.

His ultra isn’t too much of a problem, i just mp shoryu after the ground “shock” as blanka is coming down and it beats it clean.

[DigiMish]

So are we limited to only crossing up when blanka has no ex meter at all? Kinda limits the options.

Pretty much, yes. My best suggestions would be to just get a feel of your opponent. Or you could try baiting EX balls by just doing an empty normal jump in and time it correctly.

[FoxHater]

I haven’t read the thread completly but im trying to become good with Ken. Now I’ve got the combos but sucking badly in match ups. I need Help with the Blanka Match up and Byson

[iamthatiam]

Yeah i read that but what are ken’s options when i knock him down? I can beat out his non ex vertiball and electricity with j.lk but not the ex stuff. So are we limited to only crossing up when blanka has no ex meter at all? Kinda limits the options.

Is hop + vertiball free chip damage for blanka? can’t seem to punish that at all. Somtimes the step kicks hit and sometimes he manages to get another horizontal ball before my step kicks hit.

His ultra isn’t too much of a problem, i just mp shoryu after the ground “shock” as blanka is coming down and it beats it clean.

You can also just fireball him out of his ultra to be safe.

[Loque]

I think its almost essential to bait the ultra out of blanka, getting caught by it is horrible - you can punish with DP and EX Tatsu (so there are options). When he has no bar take full advantage of wakeup options, it helps surprising the ultra bait. loads of pressure i think is great on blanka, if you stick around neutral his moves will surprise you, he has too many options to sit back and wait unless your full screen.

Thinking about it, i try and bait almost everything out of blanka, get him fullscreen and throw a considered fireball will get them thinking bout an EX ball, or sweep, same with a (single) timed jump forward.

[System_1]

I’m pretty new to trying to be good with Ken, been maining Cammy forever with Ken as my secondary. Wondering what the most damaging setup for one of his FADC’s ending in the ex air tatsu combo. That thing is slick as hell and I want to learn it. Right now I mostly try for c.lk, c.lp, s.lp, c.mk xx rh.tatsu or a jab, c.fierce xx srk deal and I want to learn more. I’ve watched a lot of videos and thread the combo threads but couldn’t find the exact answer I’m looking for so suggestions/tips/comments would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Loque]

jump in HK, Roundhouse to DP etc…, if you can get to it, or if your grounded i would guess, LK, LP, c.HP, DP etc…

I havent got it down yet, but would love to get that LK, LP, c.HP and then DP on negative edge everytime, it cant be that difficult, but then knowing when to use it too… aaaa the joys and frustrations

[Kich]

I’m pretty new to trying to be good with Ken, been maining Cammy forever with Ken as my secondary. Wondering what the most damaging setup for one of his FADC’s ending in the ex air tatsu combo. That thing is slick as hell and I want to learn it. Right now I mostly try for c.lk, c.lp, s.lp, c.mk xx rh.tatsu or a jab, c.fierce xx srk deal and I want to learn more. I’ve watched a lot of videos and thread the combo threads but couldn’t find the exact answer I’m looking for so suggestions/tips/comments would be appreciated.

Thanks

It’s tight after any dp FADC (second hit). However, keep in mind that while flashy, it’s very pointless unless it’ll set you up for an ultra juggle in the corner. Ex.DP does the same damage and is much easier to connect.