Its not a definite “Do this every wake up!” It is simply an option. In my opinion its just a viable as anything else Guy can do on wake up, minus focus which I actually didnt take into consideration. But its not often that people focus on wake up, even good players.
I only focus on certain characters on wake up.
I keep it really simple :
First I do nothing if I don’t know the guy, then I tend to throw, and when they get used to tech throw, that’s KINDER SURPRISE.
- d.HK : This, if they get used to tech throw. Lead into another KD.
Throw : When they get used to block the slide.
L.k x 2 hit confirm ( Ex BSK on hit, walk throw on block or wait for a reversal ) : Against Balrog, this shit tend to just fuck a reversal Headbutt.
Nothing / Backdash ( character dependant ) I know for example that at a certain point, a rufus player can’t help but throwing a random a messiah, in that case I just do nothing. Against T hawk and Gief I back dash a lot…
@spoki31: why not use cr.mk instead of cr.hk?
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crouchtech pretty much defeats this strategy. also randon cr. hk is ultra unsafe
Random Jab/low/d.forward kill cr.mk. That’s the reason why.
Yep, this is true. If I know they’re able to “crouch tech”, I just go for an other simple solution… Like I said, simple.
I did not enumerate all the solution I use. I did not mention cross up, cross up throw, tick throw…
Plus, I play a lot against very good player from britain and France, and as far as I remember they did not advise me to rely on crouch tech too much.
Even Eita ( very good Gooki ) tell me that relying too much on option select is bad.
But you’re right about this, crouch tech is the solution against this type of wake up pressure, if you’re comfortable with it.
Have any tips on when to focus on your/their wake up, and against who? I lovvvee focus 
Guile and Sakura I pretty much never do a FA or a FA into back dash bait, you’ll eat a SRK or flash kick.
Elbow beats Flash Kick Clean.
I only do Focus on my opponents wake up if they use someone that doesnt have a good reversal or there reversal can be backdashed, It’s not hard to tell who those characters are. But I would never rely on it… especially since i rarely do it and Guy has better options for wake up options.
ok, but who do should you use focus on when YOU are getting up?
Why exactly would you focus on wake up, Guy’s best options are Block, Crouch-tech, Backdash and EX BSK or if you are good enough and sense a safe jump coming… EX Run xx Ultra.
Ex Run xx Ultra beats OS?!?!
It’s not “very soon”. You just hold up so that you jump up the moment you recover. If you wait even a bit, it’s no longer a safe jump.
Also, watch out for counter hits and late hitting slides because these won’t set it up either.
Yeah Alioune showed us this against Ryu’s Safe jump. He absorbed the active frames and Ultra grabbed him during the recovery frames, and someone unless did a video of it against a jump in attack, Heck it could be useful against Crossups, If you are using U2 of course cause U1 you may catch them in the air or they have time to block.
Why wouldn’t you just do Ultra 2 by itself? It has 2 frames startup and 2 active frames which should be enough to grab Ryu when he lands off his safejump. Maybe I’m missing something, but it seems like you’re complicating things for absolutely nothing.
Idk Alioune video showed it He said its possible to just do without it, I just EX Run is used to be Flashy -shrugs- it still would be cool to see
What would be the optimal motion for armor cancel u2…? Sounds pretty hard to me, admittedly I haven’t tried it as I rarely use U2.
It was hard to see in the video of Alioune I from the looks of it its hcb qcf 2k qcb or hcb 3p but you can do the same with U1 qcf qcf 2k 3k it’s strict timing and all but if you can do it consistently I would say its good to learn but with U2 as Alioune said it would be guaranteed to hit anyways without the EX.
Can Guy armor cancel his EX run into another EX run for no meter like Balrog? Haven’t tried this. but I’d imagine it’s alot harder since we’re not talking about a charge move.
