his weakness is low damage (which was further exacerbated with stand heavy kick damage nerf), and poor comeback potential. It would NOT break him. Didn’t even ask for U2 fixing** or anything else.** BTW I don’t see you contributing anything here so why don’t you get out?
This. Looks like I was ninja’d.
the other thread seemed to be asking for the reblance to happen. This thread is about the reblance it self and what we want to happen now that a rebalance is going to happen.
But ya, I like this thread more too. But lets stay focused.
Also, Mods. Could you possibly delete the posts that are not contributing or are obviously jokes? That would help keep the thread clean and on track. Discussion is ok insofar as it has to do with possible changes, i.e., would change X make character Y too weak or too powerful, ect…
edit: SuperNightOwl – I agree. They could also just move his hittable box back further thus making the move a threat again.
i dunno if its broken, but i agree, bison dosent need much help
give ryu the same recovery as guile on projectiles? his recovery is already good. You want this to become hadouken fighter 4?
When is this update coming out? the USA just got this last month 
EDIT: Make Hakan’s S.HP an over head
yeah he doesn’t, I just think he deserves a viable AA after his only good one that isn’t even reliable (you need to be spaced correctly) received a damage nerf that hurts him trade wise.
i have one request for my main.
make gens anti air ultra fast enough to be an anti air ultra
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also dat juri bp glitch. Would like my B ranked Juri back please >.>
you’re obviously scared of shoulder. Yun’s Shoulder is punishable.
Ex lunge at -1 is prolly good.
Yes and troubles with close jumps is one of his weakness, his crouch hp is bad, it’s volontary by the devs.
You don’t need to make a come back, or to make big damages with him, you turtle, play footsies, strong zoning, pokes and that’s all.
really? How he seems out of range to punish with the characters I use? How do you punish it?
No Bisons made even top 32 at EVO. Did you see what happened to Yipes? To Jago (not at evo at a different tourny which caused him to drop dictator)? Maybe it would be okay if the twins got nerfed because you can’t turtle twins with their get in moves.
edit: oops double post sorry
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your stuff is all nice theoryfighter, but in reality it’s not that simple (or in some situations, possible quite frankly.) If it was he would be doing more work.
its like his one character weakness. if his AA is good with the groundgame and rushdown he has, he becomes really strong. which is ok i guess if everyone is getting help.
however, i dont think everyone should get tons of buffs tho. just my opinion, and i may be in the minority, so i hope i dont get killed for saying this, but i hope all the characters maintain some form of weakness. or the ones that dont have enough should be given some.
weak spots make the characters more interesting to use IMO. if you have to find ways to work around your own, and exploit your opponents, the game is more interesting than who has the strongest bullshit, try and block this mixup
yeah i agree. If anything was done to him that would be it if other characters got buffed. Honestly if they just nerfed the twins (Yun more so than Yang) I’d be happy. Don’t get me wrong Bison is solid right now, i was assuming if the whole cast received a facelift he should get that. Like with juri it’s not really buffs it’s more like fixing…
If you look all of the characters in the game, Bison is a very good character and stay the same in AE IMO but i agree with you, the twins are a pain in the ass and the priority to change in the future rebalance.
His old U2 was dumb for me, it’s better with a charge motion.
that would fall under jab to sweep combo. jab goes from +5 to +6.
if you want to be technical, his close mk is 4 frames now too. i dont think anybody uses that for anything tho because its a shitty version of close fierce. i think any fei player would give it away for free.
i also think most would trade jab sweep and EX Rekkas safe for inv RH CW. 300 damage is awesome because you tried a standing meaty or a meaty throw. it also got out of hella mixups
Giving that to Ryu wouldn’t to that to the game. I think Ryu should be balance around his fireball. Did you even play ST at all? Ryu was fun to play in that game and fireball traps are a big reason for it.
Additionally, nearly every character now has multiple ways to get past fireballs now, I think you are over reacting.
@ HNIC Mike — ok, I will admit the Chicken Wing issue. That does need to stay the same, other then that he should go back to Super Spec imo.
I’d love that. So much. I also would like to see a reasonable damage buff for Bisons regular psycho crusher. I don’t think it’d be out of line for Bison to be able to punish harder.