Official SRK SFxT Balance Discussion Thread

D_wave · 2012-03-27T03:57:50.000Z

fuck ryu man. he’s stronger than vanilla sf4 ryu and that’s saying something.

EmblemLord · 2012-03-27T03:59:34.000Z

He’s got good limbs, he’s got a solid fireball game, and he’s a battery that does what a battery is supposed to do and well. Sagat Kazuya is a strong team, you’d be no worse off than if you went with Ryu. Well, you would, but only because Ryu is really fucking good as opposed to just fucking good.

Sumone jumps at Gat if you have one bar and a Mishima backing you they just lost over half life.

Ryu can make no such claim. So in Gat you get a better battery hell prolly the BEST battery and you got consistent chances to do huge damage with just one bar.

With Ryu you get great all around synergy and sumone that works in any team in almost any role but hes still better on point. I consider both Sagat and Ryu tied for that 4 or 5th spot in terms of tiers.

otori · 2012-03-27T04:01:44.000Z

The problem with sagat is if you’re down on life. With ryu you can comeback with that donkey kick, fireball cancel, crossup tatsu, overhead cancel crap, but with sagat you’re in for a very uphill battle. But if you have the lead it’s pretty much game.

FlyingVe · 2012-03-27T04:04:32.000Z

Jin can AA just fine, you just need to watch your spacing. And it leads to a juggle.

He doesn’t have an emergency button AA like the Shotos though. Seriously, SF4 has kinda convinced everyone that they should be able to AA at the last second and from any spacing/timing/position.

Flashy_Nights · 2012-03-27T04:09:39.000Z

Jin can AA just fine, you just need to watch your spacing. And it leads to a juggle.

He doesn’t have an emergency button AA like the Shotos though. Seriously, SF4 has kinda convinced everyone that they should be able to AA at the last second and from any spacing/timing/position.

lol I find it entertaining.

EmblemLord · 2012-03-27T04:11:53.000Z

The problem with sagat is if you’re down on life. With ryu you can comeback with that donkey kick, fireball cancel, crossup tatsu, overhead cancel crap, but with sagat you’re in for a very uphill battle. But if you have the lead it’s pretty much game.

That’s when you tag in Kazuya lol.

Dime · 2012-03-27T04:21:29.000Z

Jin can AA just fine, you just need to watch your spacing. And it leads to a juggle.

He doesn’t have an emergency button AA like the Shotos though. Seriously, SF4 has kinda convinced everyone that they should be able to AA at the last second and from any spacing/timing/position.

Ooh yeah, Ima disagree there… I’m pretty sure that it was sf2 that convinced People that aa’s were great. Case in point alpha 1 was the first fighter where people were able to get surprise jumpins against me over outstretched pokes. Guiles and shoto bros cr.mk didn’t leave them open to jumps. It’s this new school bs that makes everything unsafe.

-dime

FlyingVe · 2012-03-27T04:38:10.000Z

I guess, that is true, SF2 was like that. Still, I stand by my point.

breniam · 2012-03-27T05:14:53.000Z

AAing in this game is so much more rewarding, too. Think about how many characters get 30%-40% off an AA//Air to air

NissanZaxima · 2012-03-27T05:20:35.000Z

AAing in this game is so much more rewarding, too. Think about how many characters get 30%-40% off an AA//Air to air

Yea I kind of understand why they made anti airs somewhat weak in this game because the reward is really good for a lot of characters.

Biggest problem with this game imo is that the stages are wayyyyyy to big when you combine how slow the walkspeeds are. The games pace can be so incredibly slow at some points similar to SF4 which isnt a good thing for me at least.

FlyingVe · 2012-03-27T05:26:08.000Z

AAing in this game is so much more rewarding, too. Think about how many characters get 30%-40% off an AA//Air to air

Sounds like SF4…

sigh

Cheech_Wizard · 2012-03-27T05:39:42.000Z

Rolento is the new vanilla SF4 Balrog. There was a literal army of them at the beginning because he was a simple but effective character. Lets see how that turns out a year from now though.

Swedish_Chef · 2012-03-27T05:55:10.000Z

So I just started playing Raven and I just have one thing to say.
WHO THE HELL DESIGNED THIS CHARACTER?!? :eek:

DrewGrimey · 2012-03-27T06:22:39.000Z

it’s amazaing how Raven can teleport cancel his L ninja star and has the tools of a low health character but he has average health… Who does that remind you of?

Ketsueki_Wolf · 2012-03-27T06:28:08.000Z

So I just started playing Raven and I just have one thing to say.
WHO THE HELL DESIGNED THIS CHARACTER?!? :eek:

Obviously Wesker, he also voiced him too.

Sharin · 2012-03-27T07:41:08.000Z

it’s amazaing how Raven can teleport cancel his L ninja star and has the tools of a low health character but he has average health… Who does that remind you of?

What tools are those? Raven is a zoning character. He´s very good, but not because he has crazy mixups or tools, his zoning is just extremely effective.

rareburger · 2012-03-27T07:50:59.000Z

Raven is a bitch. funny he’s not nearly as annoying in Tekken though, very predictable but this game is a different story.

DevilJin_01 · 2012-03-27T07:54:03.000Z

DC Douglas only voices top tier characters with shades.

NissanZaxima · 2012-03-27T07:56:30.000Z

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DrewGrimey · 2012-03-27T07:58:30.000Z

What tools are those? Raven is a zoning character. He´s very good, but not because he has crazy mixups or tools, his zoning is just extremely effective.

he basically has a projectile that can be “focus attack” cancel to teleport similar to 800k health Seth, diffence is that it doesn’t cost meter to cancel the recovery frame like in SF4. His teleport is a great tool to have, his projectile is a great tool to have considering it can also be thrown in the air and like I said the fact that he can cancel his projectile recovery into a teleport is amazing and one of a kind tool in this game.

Only thing Raven is missing is a Shoryuken and a dive kick… His mix-up ability is really good as well