Official SRK SFxT Balance Discussion Thread

_Onslaught · 2012-03-17T04:17:59.000Z

Hitboxes in this game are all around terrible.

If you’re coming from MVC3 then they’re fantastic. I swear they had a bunch of 3 yeard olds design the hitboxes in Marvel.

NissanZaxima · 2012-03-17T05:10:05.000Z

Rufus Flowchart

Did divekick hit?

Yes - combo

No - ANOTHA DIVEKICK!

xN

Lord_Raptor · 2012-03-17T07:48:15.000Z

If you’re coming from MVC3 then they’re fantastic. I swear they had a bunch of 3 yeard olds design the hitboxes in Marvel.

Strong normals are retarded?

Rockymontage · 2012-03-17T08:27:58.000Z

Ogre is going to be a problem. Ogre’s jab has a bit less range than Rolento’s, but has identical frames and chains into +7 on block right in your face, plus he has a command grab.

Xiahou · 2012-03-17T08:42:32.000Z

Well she does have the best overhead in the game ahem, Ivory cutter is a mid screen unreactable overhead that you can switch cancel into full standing combo…

But she needs it. Crouch blocking works really well against Nina. Her CG can even be crouch blocked so she needs something to scare them into standing.

otori · 2012-03-17T08:43:34.000Z

Ogre is going to be a problem. Ogre’s jab has a bit less range than Rolento’s, but has identical frames and chains into +7 on block right in your face, plus he has a command grab.

Doesn’t hit crouching opponents the command grab

BentoBox · 2012-03-17T09:09:15.000Z

And you can block it.

otori · 2012-03-17T09:28:56.000Z

And you can block it.

It’s a throw on the first frame and a hit on the next. But the throw has pitiful range.

ataconazi · 2012-03-17T11:15:29.000Z

Once people start doing jabjab for the +7 on block then doing a mixup between forward+roundhouse mash into infinite kicks (overhead then low) and forward +roundhouse then command grab (catches them standing up to block the first hit of infinite kicks) the real problem comes in since its difficult to react to

Spyridon · 2012-03-17T11:41:32.000Z

Yeah he does but without any kind of a throw threat he becomes way too predictable and easy to block. The nerf to the throw range really makes characters like BIson and Barlog almost completely useless at high levels once people get used to match-ups.

Boxer can’t really do much against people who know what he’s trying to do and his character’s ability. There are too many characters with great normals and much more diverse and versatile abilities in this game while doing more or close the same damage that Rog can.

Boxer really doesn’t have much going for him imo.

People need to stop thinking this is SF and realize this is a different game. You shouldn’t be trying to use throws the same way. That’s the problem a majority of people are having tbh. Bison/Rog are far different in this game from SF.

For example, look at the vids on the front page.

quicks · 2012-03-17T11:51:33.000Z

But she needs it. Crouch blocking works really well against Nina. Her CG can even be crouch blocked so she needs something to scare them into standing.

ex command grab scoops them up anyways

_Onslaught · 2012-03-17T13:00:21.000Z

Strong normals are retarded?

When players are still saying, “What that hit?” after a year then yeah.

BentoBox · 2012-03-17T13:49:58.000Z

It’s a throw on the first frame and a hit on the next. But the throw has pitiful range.

Yeah, you’d need to be point blank~

Flashy_Nights · 2012-03-17T14:26:20.000Z

so what Youtube channels should I be checkin out to see some high level stuff?

Bluddtheersty · 2012-03-17T14:39:53.000Z

Basically these two:

http://www.youtube.com/teamspooky
http://www.youtube.com/YogaFlame24

nic1357 · 2012-03-17T19:08:41.000Z

Play him for a week. He is clearly not S-tier.

well of course you are entitled to your opinion but this statement has personally made me disregard it.

Reason4U · 2012-03-17T20:59:42.000Z

People need to stop thinking this is SF and realize this is a different game. You shouldn’t be trying to use throws the same way. That’s the problem a majority of people are having tbh. Bison/Rog are far different in this game from SF.

For example, look at the vids on the front page.

Yeah they are different because they were good then and their ass now that’s how their different. I blow up Bison and Rog’s free because they have no way to open me up unless I take stupid risk which I don’t because my team builds crazy meter and this game allows you to be safe alot of time if you have meter to burn.

My whole point about them being more predictable is that you CAN’T use throws the same and that hurts them much much more than other characters because they haven’t shown anything new that helps them adjust to this system as well as other SF characters like Ryu,Juri, Rufus,etc…

Throws were a big part of their game (more than alot of others) and without them being a constant threat both of their offense is waaaaay worse and easy to read.

AZ992LGit · 2012-03-17T23:22:41.000Z

Either every character can hit crouching players or some characters cannot hit standing players with a sweep.

Besides that, the training mode is stupid taking a long time just to look at the move list, should be able to just press select or something and see it instantly, practically why I haven’t tried out the entire cast.

otori · 2012-03-17T23:26:04.000Z

Besides that, the training mode is stupid taking a long time just to look at the move list, should be able to just press select or something and see it instantly, practically why I haven’t tried out the entire cast.

It’s brilliant, i always want to check some other completely random character’s moveset when I’m not playing him -.-.

Ketsueki_Wolf · 2012-03-17T23:34:14.000Z

So can anyone show me high level stuff that doesn’t include Ryu, Ken, Rufus and while I’m at it infinite combos?