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[_Insert_Name_Here]

I was wondering if anyone knows a good assist to extend Denjin combos. I keep running into to much hitstun and therefore I can’t really keep going after the assist or the just pop out and this is just for the simplest of combos which is ground series, mule kick, Denjin into Tatsu loops. If I add an extender or any assist during the Tatsu loops it just seems be too much for the combo or I won’t be able to get a DHC afterwards if I needed it.

Could you be more specific about what combo your doing, with who else besides Ryu? Is this Tatsu super or just special move Tatsu?

[JohnPauliuk]

By Tatsu loop I mean after the wall bounce: M, H, f+H, Tatsu light. I try to use the assist in the second loop or else after Tatsu loop I try to get the assist to come out after a M, H, Hadoken light.

[Spiral0Architect]

I’ve been having some good success with my current team of Vergil (Slash)/Hawkeye (Beam)/Dante (JS).

While I like Dante’s assist a LOT for Hawkeye, I feel like he’s holding my team back due to the barrier to learn him. I’m looking at replacing him. People have suggested Trish (Peakaboo) and Dr. Strange (EoA). How would these do?/Does anyone have any other suggestions?

I’m really looking for a character that isn’t too difficult to learn (since I still have a lot to learn on my other 2), but has a good assist for getting people off of me/respect my zoning.

[ribu]

Randomly picked up the game again, was thinking something like:
Firebrand-Swoop,Akuma-Tatsu, Sentinel- Charge…I’m a bit on the fence using Sentinel, since I don’t feel like he adds to much to Brand/Akuma. Maybe Brand,Dorm/Hawkeye,Akuma?..

[AEON]

Honestly I don’t see a better 3rd for that team. With Hawkeye on point, you have 2 assists that can push your opponent back on block( one for each axis of the screen even!). Vergil obviously benefits from both those assists as well should you keep him on point. The next obvious candidates for your 3rd wheel are Strider and Morrigan, and people complain about their execution barriers as well. Though on the other hand, Trish could be cool to cover some approach angles with Hawkeye, and I also like Strange for his DHC compatibility (especially with Kiss of Fire). So your suggestions, though not optimal in theory, are probably still very workable and could end up complimenting your own playstyle better.

[JohnPauliuk]

Even Haggar would be good for making people respect your zoning but he is a terrible anchor. I would say Trish because she can cover your flip shots and stop an approach and if worse comes to worse and you have the meter you can Gimlet into her Harvest super then hard tag back in while they are in that super to regain space.

[Spiral0Architect]

Honestly I don’t see a better 3rd for that team. With Hawkeye on point, you have 2 assists that can push your opponent back on block( one for each axis of the screen even!). Vergil obviously benefits from both those assists as well should you keep him on point. The next obvious candidates for your 3rd wheel are Strider and Morrigan, and people complain about their execution barriers as well. Though on the other hand, Trish could be cool to cover some approach angles with Hawkeye, and I also like Strange for his DHC compatibility (especially with Kiss of Fire). So your suggestions, though not optimal in theory, are probably still very workable and could end up complimenting your own playstyle better.

You’re probably right. I’ll try to stay positive and get the Dante combos under my fingers. Thanks for the insight! I’ll definite try Trish out, but I’m sure I’ll reach the same conclusion you did/I initially did (and I really do like having both axis covered, too).

Even Haggar would be good for making people respect your zoning but he is a terrible anchor. I would say Trish because she can cover your flip shots and stop an approach and if worse comes to worse and you have the meter you can Gimlet into her Harvest super then hard tag back in while they are in that super to regain space.

Yeahhhhh, Haggar in the back seems like I’m in for a bad time. That is a good point about the DHC, thanks.

[Helter_Skelter]

@Spiral0Architect. Just grind it out. That team has a steep learning curve but it’s definitely worth it.

@Castem. You swapped out Dante? Wesker should be in front of Vergil without a shadow of a doubt.
I still think Vergil/Doom/Ammy would be the best team you could use.

[Zeldasmash]

Hello. I just joined this forum.

Any advice with this team? Wesker (Samurai Edge)/Iron Man (Unibeam)/Akuma (Tatsu)

[_Insert_Name_Here]

Any advice with this team? Wesker (Samurai Edge)/Iron Man (Unibeam)/Akuma (Tatsu)

Anything specific you want? It doesn’t really help if people just walk in, post their teams, and say only “Help me.”

[Zeldasmash]

OK then.
Wesker gets great aid from Unibeam and Tatsu. Unibeam helps him zone, or lucky confirm from gun and Tatsu helps him rushdown and snipe assists. Akuma is a really good anchor, but Iron Man however get the least benefit from the team. That’s where i need help with. I don’t wanna replace Iron Man though.

[castem]

@Castem. You swapped out Dante? Wesker should be in front of Vergil without a shadow of a doubt.
I still think Vergil/Doom/Ammy would be the best team you could use.

Yeah, I gave Dante multiple chances…I even got decent with him. I just didn’t find him all that fun to play (anchor or no), so I didn’t feel like keeping him on my team.

Wesker’s pretty nice all around. He’s got good vitality, damage and meter gain, he’s got a command grab (very useful), counters, teleports, and good DHC’s; more than all that, though, I find that he’s fun to play (I love using his command grab and counters in particular). About the only reason I’m hesitant to make Vergil/Wesker/Amaterasu (or Wesker/Vergil/Amaterasu, as you’ve suggested) my main team is that his assist isn’t all that great for Vergil (at least, not for mixups + teleport). Samurai Edge is fairly nice, and Jaguar Kick is okay, but it simply doesn’t compare to something like a beam or projectile assist (like Magneto’s Disruptor or Hawkeye’s Triple Arrow).

Thinking about it, Wesker/Vergil/Hawkeye is probably the most efficient team I can think of for my playstyle, but I really don’t want to give up Amaterasu (she’s my favorite character in UMvC3).

At this point, I almost feel like switching out Vergil for Wesker in my team (that is, dropping Vergil from my team).

So…does anybody know of some good teams with Wesker & Ammy on them? Off the top of my head, Wesker/Doom/Ammy, Wesker/Task/Ammy, Thor/Wesker/Ammy, Wesker/Nova/Ammy, and Nemesis/Wesker/Ammy might work. I don’t have experience with any of those teams, though, so I don’t know for sure.
Any suggestions?

[discovigilante]

I think Wesker/Ammy is pretty trash, personally. He doesn’t get nearly enough off of Cold Star, both by ways of neutral (so you got them to block Cold Star, now what? high-low mixups aren’t strong enough) and combo extension (they fall out of the assist soooooooo often). She also doesn’t need an OTG/combo extension assist. If you figure something out between them, great, otherwise I’d just keep rocking Vergil/someone (Doom)/Ammy since they’re actually a decent pair.

[castem]

I think Wesker/Ammy is pretty trash, personally. He doesn’t get nearly enough off of Cold Star, both by ways of neutral (so you got them to block Cold Star, now what? high-low mixups aren’t strong enough) and combo extension (they fall out of the assist soooooooo often). She also doesn’t need an OTG/combo extension assist. If you figure something out between them, great, otherwise I’d just keep rocking Vergil/someone (Doom)/Ammy since they’re actually a decent pair.

I can see your point. I’ll give Vergil/Doom/Ammy another shot and see how things go.

Edit: That’s not to say that I’ll give up on Wesker & Ammy entirely. There might be some synergy there that we’re just not yet aware of (and I’d hate to give up Wesker so easily after discovering how much I like playing as him).

[discovigilante]

Nothing wrong with having a sub team using Wesker but not Ammy, for synergy’s sake. He IS very fun.

[castem]

Nothing wrong with having a sub team using Wesker but not Ammy, for synergy’s sake. He IS very fun.

Actually, I think you’ve brought up a very good point. Maybe I’m trying too hard to stuff everything into a single team.

In that case, what you do guys think about the following teams?

Teleport-mixup team: Wesker/Vergil/Hawkeye

High/Low-mixup team: x/x/Ammy
(Some characters I’m thinking of for this team: Thor, Nova, Strange, Doom)

Of course, those are just general descriptions (for example, point Wesker doesn’t only have Teleport+assist available to him; he has counters, command grabs, and so on).

I think the first team is alright - Anchor Hawkeye works fine, his Triple Arrow assist is perfect for teleporting characters, and Wesker/Vergil work fairly well together.

The second team needs some work though. Are the characters I suggested fine? Are there other teams/characters that can really take advantage of Cold Star (or Okami Shuffle crossover combination, or Ammy in general)? I’ve never specifically built a team around anchor Ammy, so I don’t know what kind of point/mid shell I should be looking for.

[Bill]

Nothing wrong with having a sub team using Wesker but not Ammy, for synergy’s sake. He IS very fun.

Actually, I think you’ve brought up a very good point. Maybe I’m trying too hard to stuff everything into a single team.

In that case, what you do guys think about the following teams?

Teleport-mixup team: Wesker/Vergil/Hawkeye

High/Low-mixup team: x/x/Ammy
(Some characters I’m thinking of for this team: Thor, Nova, Strange, Doom)

Of course, those are just general descriptions (for example, point Wesker doesn’t only have Teleport+assist available to him; he has counters, command grabs, and so on).

I think the first team is alright - Anchor Hawkeye works fine, his Triple Arrow assist is perfect for teleporting characters, and Wesker/Vergil work fairly well together.

The second team needs some work though. Are the characters I suggested fine? Are there other teams/characters that can really take advantage of Cold Star (or Okami Shuffle crossover combination, or Ammy in general)? I’ve never built a team around anchor Ammy, so I don’t know what kind of point/mid shell I should be looking for.

X/Strange/Ammy
X/Doom/Ammy

[discovigilante]

Serp got great mileage (and maybe still does) out of Thor/Strange/Ammy, I rock Nova/Doom/Ammy. I can tell you about the latter: it’s super fun, is very reset/incoming mixup oriented but doesn’t do a lot of damage without a TAC or crumple -> hard tag combo, but can also kill off any Nova air throw due to hard tags into Doom. Nova is amazing with Cold Star; if you get your opponent to block c.M Cold Star, you have yourself a mixup. And Doom/Ammy is Doom/Ammy. I recommend it.

[Spiral0Architect]

I’m actually finding Wesker to be a ton of fun to play as well. His mixup game isn’t too difficult and I love how his gun makes people respect your space. My old team was efficient, but I only really enjoyed playing Hawkeye lol.

So I’m looking to do a Wesker/Hawkeye shell, thinking of maybe either Storm 2nd with Hawkeye anchor or Hawkeye 2nd with Akuma anchor. Thoughts on that?/what assists would I be looking at?

[castem]

Serp got great mileage (and maybe still does) out of Thor/Strange/Ammy, I rock Nova/Doom/Ammy. I can tell you about the latter: it’s super fun, is very reset/incoming mixup oriented but doesn’t do a lot of damage without a TAC or crumple -> hard tag combo, but can also kill off any Nova air throw due to hard tags into Doom. Nova is amazing with Cold Star; if you get your opponent to block c.M Cold Star, you have yourself a mixup. And Doom/Ammy is Doom/Ammy. I recommend it.

Of those two, Thor/Strange/Ammy looks a lot more appealing. Nova is fun, though, so I’ll definitely give the second one a try.

Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll try them out next chance I get.