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Thanks!

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@Castem. I think Ryu is absolute garbage but he might fit your criteria.

@Noodles. Magneto/Doom/Dante. Dante is a more reliable anchor and Doom can do his fair share with both Distrupter and Jam Session/Weasel Shot.

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I can’t say for sure how good Ryu is, but I’m hoping Cold Star makes him at least somewhat good. Pin the enemy so he can go for a low or use his overhead. I won’t know how well he works till I try him out. tested Ryu. He didn’t work out for my team.

I agree about Noodles’ team - Magneto/Doom/Dante looks best (imo). If you wanted to switch things up a bit, Dante/Doom/Magneto could also work.

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Alright, so I haven’t found my team’s last character yet. Hopefully you guys can help with that.

What I’m going to do is list off every character that has a type of projectile assist (excluding Vergil and Amaterasu, since they’re the two characters I already know I want on my team). I’ll strikethrough characters that I know won’t work (either I’ve tested them already or they don’t fit my criteria). I’m hoping for advice on which of the remaining characters should I pick & why.
Note that I’ve included my criteria for my ideal team at the end of the post.

Complete list:
Doctor Doom
Storm
Captain America
Morrigan
Dante
Hawkeye
Taskmaster
Doctor Strange
Nemesis T-type
Phoenix
Firebrand
Dormammu
Wesker
Deadpool
Zero
Phoenix Wright
Nova
Ghost Rider
Tron Bonne
Chun Li
Felicia
Hulk
Spiderman
Hsien Ko
Ryu
Akuma
Shuma-Gorath
Trish * (low voltage)
Iron Man
Thor * (mighty spark)
Arthur * (daggers)
Chris
Rocket Raccoon * (spitfire or log)
Viewtiful Joe
Sentinel * (drones)
Magneto ^ (beam)
MODOK

  • means I’m considering the character for the middle position. (Vergil/*/Amaterasu)
    ^ means I’m considering the character for the anchor position. (Vergil/Amaterasu/^)
    *^ means I’m considering the character for either position.

My ideal team will have:

  • point Vergil
  • Amaterasu somewhere on the team
  • a strong anchor
  • a good projectile or beam assist that reaches full-screen and can be used with Vergil’s teleport for a mixup
  • a safe DHC when I need to get Vergil out (Devil Trigger -> ???)
  • a powerful, safe, full-screen-length DHC for killing assists (Dimension Slash + DHC should be enough to kill most assist characters). (Note that I plan on using this regardless of whether or not the enemy is blocking, so the DHC I use to take out the assist needs to be safe, or at least pretty close to it.)
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As far as safe DHC’s in, I’m pretty sure Iron Man & Chris don’t. Not sure on Shuma but I think the past hyper pose screws him over.
If I’m not mistaken I think both of Trish’s & Arthur’s are, Thor can do Mighty Punish, RR can lay trap, Sent can Hyper Sent Force (and Plasma Storm outside corner I think), Magneto can Shockwave, & Modok can HBR away. As far as anchors, I’d take out Thor, RR, Trish, & Modok right off the bat. That leaves you with Sent, Mag and Arthur.
Magneto doesn’t really get much for damage off a full-screen DHC compared to the other 2 but he’s leaps and bounds a better character than the other two. Vergil probably has the normals to protect drone calls (and dagger calls for that matter). I’m not really sure what kind of mixups Arthur & Sent get off Cold Star assist but Magneto can dance on your head with it.

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Like I said before of you want to kill an assist you’re going to normally need X-Factor to finish the job.

Anyway, you’ve struck the best and most synergetic characters off your list, but it’s your team.

Amaterasu is an anchor character because no character adds to her game as much as she adds to theirs.

Half of those characters are absolutely awful anchor characters and also have terribly unsafe DHCs.

So with that said:

Vergil/Trish/Ammy
Vergil/Sentinel/Ammy
Vergil/Arthur/Ammy

Those are all really decent teams and they have safe DHCs, have synergy with Ammy, provide decent neutral.
Arthur can be played as an anchor if you want but you want put him in Gold Armor first and I can’t remember if his Goddess Braclet Hyper can hit more than one character at a time. You’re going to have to test that.

Anyway, those last few teams are pretty good. I like the Trish one the most, though.

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Thanks for the advice you two! I’ve updated my post reflecting your suggestions.

Oh, and I’d like to clarify one thing: the ‘safe DHC’ criteria I have only applies to the character if they’re in the middle spot. If they’re anchor, I don’t mind either way.

That being said, is Chris a good anchor / can he fight well on his own? And, if he can, is it mainly projectile spamming?

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Shi- I forgot about this thread lol.

So I wanna make a fun Jam session team since I’ve never used the assist but I’m a avid Dante player. I need my point char to be someone with fast buttons for once (X-23, Wolvie, Felic, w/e) I was thinking Wolverine as an Alt team cause he’s incredibly fast to learn. But what are some good teams with Wolvie/Dante (Spot doesn’t matter) that don’t involve Akuma/Doom? I was thinking Wolvie/Frank/Dante, solid? I already kinda have Bee’s team too though so not sure about the use.

Edit: Just thought of Wolvie/Dante/Trish (Voltage). Sounds fun, sounds good? Horri/beam like assist + jam session

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@Castem. I’m really not sure what advice I can further give you. Most of the good characters have been written off your list.

Chris isn’t a good anchor and heavily assist dependant as a point character.

You really need to make a sacrifice because every team seems weaker as each post goes on.

@Bryanv2. Wolverine/Frank/Dante is my favourite Wolvie team. So strong.

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Perhaps you’re right, but I’m not thinking along the same lines you are; rather than be worried at my current choices, I’m actually quite excited for them. I can’t wait to try out the remaining choices and see which ones work for me.

So perhaps no further advice is necessary. Now that the list of characters has been narrowed down, I’ve gotta get into training mode, see what each team can do, and see how they’ll work in some actual matches.
(That’s not to say that I’ll be ignoring advice given or videos posted; I’d definitely appreciate either. I’m merely saying that I think I’m at the point where playing as each team first-hand will be the main deciding factor when choosing between the remaining characters.)

That being the case, I’ll be trying out the following teams:
Vergil/Trish/Amaterasu
Vergil/Thor/Amaterasu
Vergil/Arthur/Amaterasu
Vergil/Rocket Raccoon/Amaterasu
Vergil/Sentinel/Amaterasu
Vergil/Magneto/Amaterasu
Vergil/Amaterasu/Magneto

I’d like thank everyone who has helped me so far. When I find my main team, I’ll let you guys know ^.^

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I want to have a team that can do extremely flashy and stylish combos, with a lot of variety so they don’t get redundant. Something fun that I could find new stuff every now and then, maybe something that hasn’t been played into the ground. I’m thinking Dante on point, but I don’t know two good people to put after. Iron man is a possibility.

Anyone know two people I could put for a team like this?

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@TheMightyMrPlow

It’s always going to be personal preference on what you think is flashy. However, I think it’s important to make sure to have a team that is comprised of strong characters with synergetic value.

So a few strong flashy teams are:

Viper/Dante/Strider
Dante/Vergil/Strider
Dante/Vergil/Hawkeye
Magneto/Strange/Ammy
Magneto/Strange/Doom

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@Helter Skelter Long combos with many, fast hitting moves that take advantage of everything the characters have. Any ideas for teams with Dante on point, but without Vergil?

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It might not seem like it at first, but Dante/Doom/Sent is an optimal team for making Dante flashy. More importantly (for me at least), it’s a very fun team to play and is pretty good in any order. I use this team to warm up in training mode a lot.

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Have Sentinel in the back if you want extra flashy Dante. I sometimes play with someone that has Iron man and Sent in the back, and he has some insanely stylish combos with Drones. The person in the middle doesn’t matter, could be Trish for Round Harvest swag

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I’ve finally found my main team:

Vergil/Amaterasu/Dante

So I realized I was so focused on getting the right “character” that I forgot to take into consideration the right “assist”. Trish’s Low Voltage comes out slow, Thor’s Might Spark comes out slow and hits somewhat high, and Sentinel’s drones come out way too slow (and can be canceled if Sentinel is hit). While the three teams I was trying out were fun, my point Vergil definitely suffered as a result of their assist (compared to other teams). While I might play the three teams I tested in the future, none of those three will be my main team.

So what I did is I reexamined the entire cast with my criteria, but keeping in mind exactly what kind of assist I wanted as well. The answer was Vergil/Amaterasu/Dante.

This team has 3 of my favorite video game characters, a projectile assist that’s good for mixups*, all my DHC needs are covered (thanks to Vergil/Amaterasu), and Dante is a respectable anchor. (Actually, any of the three characters in the team can work as anchor, so I’m free to switch characters around as I need to.)

*Weasel Shot is fast, it pins, has 4 hits, hits small characters, and has a range just shy of fullscreen. The only real problems with it are its range (it doesn’t go fullscreen like I wanted), its weak vertical coverage, and its low projectile durability.

The only thing I don’t really like about this team is Bold Canceling; that’s what originally turned me away from Dante (in addition to Weasel Shot’s problems). However, I think as I getter better with Dante that’ll become less of an issue.

I’d like to thank everyone who’s helped me so far. I know I’ve been extremely picky in choosing my team (even misguided towards the end), but I’m very thankful for all the help I’ve been given. Thank you all so much!!!

Oh, and I’d like to specifically thank Helter Skelter. You were right about me needing to sacrifice something to get my team, and you really helped me near the end of my team/character selection. Many thanks!

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I’m getting back into marvel and I played MODOK/Dante/Sentinel

I want to keep dante but I also want a noobie team that will help me learn marvel better, what do you fine people suggest?

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Trying to make a x/vergil/x. I love my cap team but I want to break into some of the more top tierish teams. What would be the shell’s to look into? I’m very acquainted with doing blocked hyper CS > devil trigger, s.:h:+cap ss assist, teleport, teleport, etc… and I’m just not finding anything as awesome assist wise. SS is really nice because the 2nd hit leaves a gap so I’m a bit spoiled by it. I’m also trying to think what characters benefit best from 2nd vergil and rapid slash.

ideas?

I was thinking maybe zero(projectile)/vergil/mag(electro or grab?). Other characters I;ve been looking at:

[list]
[]Dorm
[]Hawkeye
[]Storm
[]Task
[]Doom
[]Strange
[]Strider
[]Dante
[]Nova
[]Spencer
[]Wolverine
[]Ammy
[/list]

I just like the concept of strong point character, then drop devil trigger vergil on a blocked DHC and win with RT + assist pressure. I figured with the zero team I could do what zero does best (being an OP douche with no concept of balance) and then cancel to to clone > devil trigger and abuse double projectiles + teleport mixups. Then if Vergil dies, Zero has movement options and the clone makes him very dangerous once he escapes incoming. I’m guessing Mags is a good anchor, but Strider maybe too? I’m not big on assist anchors that suffer without assists (EX: Doom), but if the tech is there…

I’m open to a any ideas. Right now I can play Cap, Doom, Task, Akuma, Vergil well and I dabble in Strider, RR, Wolverine, Storm, X-23.

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@ifbpwnstar
Off the top of my head:
Spencer/Vergil/Hawkeye
Dante/Vergil/Hawkeye
Dormmamu/Vergil/Hawkeye
Zero/Vergil/Dante
Doom/Vergil/Ammy

I suppose you could try all of those teams (except for the last one) with anchor Magneto as well.

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Seeing your post about what team would help you learn marvel better reminded me of a previous post I had seen in this thread:

If you want to keep Dante on there rather than trying out Magneto/Doom/Sentinel, just replace one of the characters on that team with Dante. Perhaps one of the following teams:

Dante/Doom/Sentinel
Magneto/Dante/Sentinel
Dante/Magneto/Sentinel