"Nothing like a good workout!" Paul Combos and Framedata (v2013)

zUkUu · 2013-02-06T01:22:24.000Z

Weird typo under 2 meter corner combos:
[505] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher
That doesn’t use any meter. Other than that excellent stuff.

probably “Super Art”.

Even I get confused when writing so much data x) thanks for pointing it out.

zUkUu · 2013-02-06T02:22:01.000Z

Added some example tag combos:
[LEFT][298+] Launcher, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG[/LEFT]
[LEFT][318+] EX Sway, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG[/LEFT]
[LEFT][335+] cl.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG[/LEFT]
[LEFT][349+] cl.hp, HK Shredder, cl.hp xx HK Shredder xx TAG[/LEFT]
[LEFT][375+] cl.hp, EX Smasher, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG[/LEFT]
[LEFT][385+] cl.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG[/LEFT]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34408126.jpg

ShADoW_NoBODy · 2013-02-06T02:51:32.000Z

I’m dying at the Shredder picture.

Ralenzo · 2013-02-07T07:06:23.000Z

I have a question about the frame data in general.
How do u sum up the total amount of frames (animation), is it ‘startup + active + recovery’, or is it ‘startup + recovery - active’ ? Basically I wanna know if recovery frames consist active frames.

zUkUu · 2013-02-07T07:13:10.000Z

start up + active -1 + recovery = whiff duration afaik

Ralenzo · 2013-02-07T07:19:20.000Z

Yeah it’s probably like that.
I finally found a move with less recovery frames than active frames.
Cammy her ex spiral arrow; 9 startup, 19 active and 14 recovery.

So it wouldn’t make sense if the recovery consist active frames ^^’

zUkUu · 2013-02-07T07:30:30.000Z

Yeah it’s probably like that.
I finally found a move with less recovery frames than active frames.
Cammy her ex spiral arrow; 9 startup, 19 active and 14 recovery.

So it wouldn’t make sense if the recovery consist active frames ^^’

that is why I don’t know how to split recovery and active frames. I can get the whole duration and duration when hitting \ blocking, but I dunno if you can see active frames visually, nor how I could calculate them with he data I can gather.

zUkUu · 2013-02-11T21:46:46.000Z

uhg… the new style is… :X

Paul
s.hp: On Block -7 (-1)
c.hp: On Block -13F (-3)
LK Shredder on Block -4F (+1)
EX Shredder Start Up 6F (-1)
EX Sway Start Up 30F (-1)
EX Smasher Start Up 11F (-1)
EX Mortar Punch Start Up 23F (-1)
Super Art 8F Start Up (+1)
Cross Art 10F Start Up (+1)

not exactly sure about the cross art start up, need to test that via traditional means as well. it’s difficult to determine when the cinematic frames end exactly.

Ralenzo · 2013-02-14T00:50:27.000Z

Is it just me me or do other people have a hard time coming to this forum again because of the layout ?
I literary need to force myself to check on SRK. I hope they’re gonna change this real quick…

zUkUu · 2013-02-14T01:09:50.000Z

Ralenzo:

Is it just me me or do other people have a hard time coming to this forum again because of the layout ?
I literary need to force myself to check on SRK. I hope they’re gonna change this real quick…

“Agree”

It’s been 2 1/2 days, and there has literally been NOTHING changed except for bb code, smileys, ignore function, and edit time +time stamp.

Priorities someone?

DarthPariah · 2013-02-14T09:48:14.000Z

Just so i know… xx before a special move(like raze) means??? And c means crouch? Cl is close, but chp? Im just used to cr for crouch and want to make sure. Had some good wins scrubbing it with paul(cause i am pretty much a week 3 scrub. Dont have as much time to play as before and took months off from the game) and before 2013 i almost always lost with paul. lost almost every game with gief and won more than half with paul.???

zUkUu · 2013-02-14T09:52:41.000Z

DarthPariah:

Just so i know… xx before a special move(like raze) means??? And c means crouch? Cl is close, but chp? Im just used to cr for crouch and want to make sure. Had some good wins scrubbing it with paul(cause i am pretty much a week 3 scrub. Dont have as much time to play as before and took months off from the game) and before 2013 i almost always lost with paul. lost almost every game with gief and won more than half with paul.???

There is a “notation glossary” at the beginning of the combo list

Ralenzo · 2013-02-14T23:17:10.000Z

Lazy people being lazy

zUkUu · 2013-02-20T13:06:13.000Z

Yay, I could update the combo thread (I don’t even know with what, I copied a local text file). I’m curious if we have more viable combos to find out. If we could link c.mp / s.mp xx Mortar after Raze that would be huge.

Asica · 2013-03-03T10:07:21.000Z

I had to jump on to say a huge thanks to zUkUu for the first two posts. Amazing work, just what a player new to a character needs and wants, but rarely finds on these forums. I’ve been maining Hwo&Hei for awhile, but since #2013 I’m getting on dat damage bandwagon and adding Paul to my stable. His anti-air and anti-fireball combos are so easy even I can do them, and he hits like a truck.

zUkUu · 2013-03-07T22:34:32.000Z

[676] (ch) EX Smasher, s.HP xx MP Mortar Punch, s.hp xx Super Art

DAT DAMAGE.

So it seems you can combo s.hp xx mortar after an EX Smasher after all. It’s a tight link tho. Gotta update those combos then.

street11 · 2013-03-08T04:41:21.000Z

I wish far st.HP would crumple on crouching CH. There would be many more interesting combos if that was the case.

zUkUu · 2013-03-08T04:59:16.000Z

street11:

I wish far st.HP would crumple on crouching CH. There would be many more interesting combos if that was the case.

dat 3x EX CADC loop.
It’s possible to charge a normal smasher to EX version before he crumples to the ground, but that doesn’t seem to have any use.

Doopliss · 2013-03-08T16:07:34.000Z

zUkUu:

street11:

I wish far st.HP would crumple on crouching CH. There would be many more interesting combos if that was the case.

dat 3x EX CADC loop.
It’s possible to charge a normal smasher to EX version before he crumples to the ground, but that doesn’t seem to have any use.

You can also charge EX to super for a 1-bar super.

zUkUu · 2013-03-13T00:28:23.000Z

EX Sway has never any sort of invincibility. I get beaten (even by lows) all day long.