I can’t wait for (new game that hasn’t come out/been figured out yet), (game that’s out that I suck at) is bullshit, and an overall bad game.
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(New game) LEVELS UP; Class changes to (game that’s out that I suck at)
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The mere thought that SNKP, a company that’s batting 1.000 when it comes to making shitty games, is going to give you the game you’ve been wanting your whole lives makes my head hurt. That shit’s going to be broken as fuck.
Give me one single reason why KOF 2002UM or KOF98FE are broken or shitty.
Keep in mind the fact that the US didn’t play the games or you couldn’t win money from them aren’t valid reasons.
There were exactly two characters in Arcade 13 that were balance problems, and they’ve been nerfed, and everyone else got buffs (maybe not some of the ones all of them needed, but).
Also, the arcade version was rebalanced several times. It was played over a year. These are NOT the same kneejerk nerf/buff reactions like we saw with Vanilla within the first month of the game.
Unlike Capcom, which still can’t fix broken after multiple patches/revisions, SNKP has actually gotten pretty damn good at balancing their KOFs.
If you paid attention to 2002UM, maybe you’d have already known that.
Also the whole “Ratio points” thing has been going with a lot of KOFs in the Japanese community in the past 5 years or so, not just 13. Even 98FE and 2002UM have “Ratio” points. Doesn’t necessarily mean the game’s broken.
Admittedly, I know nothing about 2002UM, and I’m not quite sure what the other one is (another 98 revision?). That said, if the US isn’t playing it, you’re stuck playing by yourself, which isn’t what fighting games are about. While it may be true that they aren’t shitty, if they aren’t getting played at all, then they may as well be nonexistent.
Honestly, of people that still play / are relevant, I’ve probably been around the one of the longest. I know there are even older NC people but most of them have fallen off or just lurk. But hey, I didn’t say it.
I don’t really get what you guys are getting at though, it’s not like I said “don’t play ultimate”. Ultimate is mad fun, play it! It’s much better than SF4 if you want a fun game. I’m just mad scrubs like Will can win with herp derp shit lol
Also, I’m not excited about KoF13 because it’s balanced, I’m excited because it’s like some middle ground between ultimate and SF4. But I’m also still excited for ultimate, shit’s still new. I just like to talk about shit that’s on my mind. Regardless of what people say on here, NC will still only get 8-16 entrants per tournament. You know why? Our state is fucking ass for fighting games. Just gotta travel if we want more comp.
Oh on ultimate, I found some good stuff with firebrand tonight, I think he might be one of the better anchors. He’s got an infinite that you can start off literally anything, ground hit, air hit, ground bounce, random bon voyage hit, air throw, ground throw, you name it. Also in XF3 and then turning on luminous body, I think he becomes the hardest character to block in the game, even moreso than Strider. He also has a full screen fireball infinite. So, dunno if I’ll use him permanently but he’s definitely gonna fill my Dante slot till the newness of ultimate wears off and I go back to just wanting to run the absolute best setup for my characters.
So if the US isn’t playing it, nobody is?
2002 UM was an A-tier game at SBO, I’m sure that means there’s at least a substantial scene in Japan.
Doesn’t mean much to us in terms of building a community, but I think that does mean that SNKP is not 1.000 at making shitty unbalanced games.
I’m not going to blindly praise them as if they haven’t fucked up in recent years, because they have…especially KOF 12, but that game was shit for plenty of reasons that don’t affect KOF13 and it doesn’t define the whole company.
I dont want to be an asshole (maybe a jerk slightly) but will everyone PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP and play whatever game it is they choose to play. I dont care if its KoF, Tekken, Marvel, SF, Tiddlywinks, Arcana, Tetris, Hungry Hungry Hippos, BB, or Stratego. Play whatever it is that gets you by and let others play what it is that gets their rocks off.
Saying SNK or Capcom or ArkSys or Examu or Namco makes shitty games for whatever reason is supposed to prove what exactly? NOT A DAMN THING other than you just wont be playing whatever game it is youre trying to throw in the mud. Fine. Play whatever it is you play, for whatever reasons you choose to play it.
I have been an SNK faithful for almost 20 years now. Ive been there through the shitty games like SvC. I dropped the money on ALL the home carts and the Atomiswave just to play XI and NeoWave (ugh). I personally think that SNK characters and their games in general have more personality than Capcom titles. Even on weaker hardware they were able to make characters, animations, backgrounds, and music that defined an era of fighting games for ME. Their characters have evolved over the years via new movesets and such. I like that. Whereas it was said that all of their characters do “bitchslaps with fire on them”, I could say the same about SF characters just learning new versions of their already stale moves. OH I have a fireball, now my fireball is red, now my fireball is electric, now my fireball is invisible, now it hits 5 times. SO THE FUCK WHAT. but im not standing on my soapbox screaming that your game sucks.
If you couldnt play KoF before, dont expect to be able to play it now just because you think its shiny and new…because its NOT. Same with UMvC3. If you were ass at that, expect to continue to be ass. But for the love of all that is good, just let people play whatever they want to play IN PEACE!
If you have no intention of playing whatever game it is the other side is playing, shut the fuck up.
Aaron: it requires a single stock. but the combo itself actually builds the majority of that bar back. yes I have a midscreen variant as well.
KOF 12 wasn’t bad on purpose. SNKP doesn’t put out bad games as a marketing decision and expect you to play test it for them. 2002UM was huge in Japan and is still played even after KOF13 came out. It all depends on what you wanna get out of playing?? Are you playing for comp,fun,community or what? Whats your motivation? The KOF series has come a loooong way in terms of brokenness. I played KOF13 the day it hit Japanese arcades,I liked it then and now the console version is even better. Of course it has its issues, but they are issues I can live with.
I’m not entirely sure how the NC community as a whole is,but I know I have had quite a few obsticals tryin to get people to play non Capcom FGs in the past. I remember when I first moved here and was talking to somebody about KOF13 coming out, and their actual response was “I don’t give a fuck about that company.” As if they would some how betray capcom by tying a game made by another company…really?? With all the gamers in Fayetteville, the BBCS2 community is all of 3 people…WHY? When the people who don’t play just complain about how bad the game they actually play is?? Iv’e had people tell me that the wanna learn GG, and actually practice with me for a hour or 2 as I try to explain the system to them, only to have them turn around and say that the game is dead, or make some disparaging remarks about it when we get into mixed company. I don’t like this. Is this a FG community or a stinking popularity contest? People afraid to play different games cz the might be talked about or laughed at,what is this high school? Whatever man.:rolleyes:Holla!!
Good shit now I gotta find something crazy like this too, I’ll try to have some sweet technology too. Gotta be able to do something crazy off free Athena specials after teleport now. I’ll have that one inch punch combo down too that does like 600-700 damage and like 95% stun with a gimmicky reset at the end, 1 meter + full HD but it is touch of death so :/.
Your phone must have caught one of those firey bitchslaps, cause nothing’s working reaching you. Trying to PM you, I’m not driving 30 minutes to pick it up without a midnight session to play it in.
I think Demo said it well. Like really, why are people going out of their way ( …like blatantly out of their way ) to kill the hype for KOF? Can people at least be given the time of day to play the game for themselves without having to hear to stuff like…
“SNK has the worst track record for balance”
“don’t get too excited over this game, people are gonna complain and drop it anyway”
“The DLC is basically old shit from old games”
Yea 7th, that’s what I’m saying. Whats the big deal if a group of people like something that you don’t? I don’t see how it affects you one way or another. As it stands KOF13 is dope,period. It was dope in the arcade and now its crack on these streets!! And people can’t stand it. Their tears are Delicious.:sad:
Ok, same thing right back at you, why can’t people play Ultimate without hearing the same “omg this game sucks, same shit as Vanilla, can’t wait for XIII it’s gonna be SOOOO much better, etc etc”. Like, I don’t understand. More confirmation bias at hand.
Play what you like, I don’t really care. If I see nonsense though, I’ll call it out.
And I already stated why this is, and it relates directly to the topic at hand. It didn’t use to be that way, and considering how long you’ve been around, you should know better than that.
Oh look, the same arguments I’ve been reading since I joined the community. Let me join in and make another big post telling people to play games and shit so it can fall on deaf ears yet again for the Nth time.
This is an endless cycle. NC is destined to be ass. This mentality holds it back. Even if one man weathers the storm he is quickly drug back through the mud after listening to the negativity of everyone else, returning to his former status of bitchy pot monster. Which is worse than just regular pot monster.
You guys keep making your huge novel posts. The ones telling people to just play games for what they are. Usually in these arguments its every three posts you see one. See if that finally takes you guys down a different road than the one its been taking you down.