It’s not always a guarantee. I’ve seen people MTxxHS to escape losing their Magneto to HS chip, and then they end up losing their storm for whatever reason, even though the DHC has the frame kill to come in and start earlier. It happens, I THINK, in one of the matches in NEC with Yipes vs. Wong… I don’t remember exactly what match it was though, but that vaguely rings a bell… It could have been with Sanford though.
Is it not just that the second person to do it gets priority over the super freeze?
It is that… but because HS comes down in a random way, sometimes the first person will still win.
The rocks appear and start to fall as soon as super freeze ends. That’s all. The only peculiar thing about Hailstorm is that the hail sometimes falls in a pattern such that nothing will hit a Storm in Hailstorm position (why some double Hailstorms don’t trade.)
@ ECCXI. 12h_Losers Finals: Jwong(Storm/Sent/Cyke) vs Yipes(MSS) at 03:13
This is what happened (In order)
Yipes Sent HSF then DHC to Storm’s HS -> Jwong’s Sent at FF Hard Drive DHC to Cyke’s MOB then DHC again to Storm’s HS and both traded hits equally (3 hits on each side).
this still bother’s me. Yipes’s storm would have gotten the priority right? since pretty much he would have the frame and startup advantage there.
As I and Green both said. Since it’s random, there’s no guarantee as to how it would hit. The hails don’t come down in the same way every time.
I can see a patern there though… To me it looks like the second person to super freeze gets priority. I could be wrong, but from what I’ve seen in many different examples is the first person’s super freeze gets froze out by the second persons super freeze.
i’m impressed u can see a pattern there… that’s a difficult task IMO.
Actually it makes sense now since Storm doesn’t activate super freeze untill she’s in the air. Since MT is like 1 frame start up, he steals the super freeze first, keeping the first Storm frozen in start up. I guess the randomness comes from how far through the first Storm is into her start up. Does anyone have a partner to do some testing? I only have my self…
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Hey, at least you are hype about marvel. <3 much love.
wow. that’s analysis to the next level… yeah marvel is random
what’s the best time to use the typhoonxxhail? So i wont get predictable…
If you need to chip somebody and they can’t stop you.
either for chipping, or you can bait thier assist out and do it(i fucked up alot of psylockes this way, lol). its also good to use against an aggressive opponent or another storm or mags thats trying to sit thier and build meter.
i dont think i ever typhoon xx hail. too scared somebody will tag =[
Why can’t I do:
tri-hp, lk, lk, hk + Cap, hail, LA, LA xx LS
In the corner? Only thing I can think of is there’s only one super cancel per combo, but that wouldn’t make sense because Magneto can do two HG xx MT in one combo…
Can you, uh, couch that in proper terminology?
Err, it is in propper terminology, I don’t write combos any other way… But just for you… Tri-jump heavy punch, light kick, light kick (or medium kick if you preffer), heavy kick and CapCom, Hail Storm, Lightning Attack, Lightning Attack, Lightning Storm…
because after hailstorm you’re in normal jump mode, therefore you can’t cancel a LA into LS
Ahh, I see… I guess that explains why you can’t LA xx LS on the ground either?