New trend among 2D companies

[rukawa_kaede]

SNK is no better quite frankly. Yeah KOFXII is hand drawn 2D sprites but it’s all being drawn over 3D models.

still the game is 100% 2D unlike SFIV

[AlterGenesis]

A new trend among companies nowadays is that they’re making fighting games. =0

[chaos123x]

I would like a SF ALPHA 3 VS SF III 3RD Strike HD REMIX

Gameplay of SFIII with allot of the characters from the ALPHA series mixed in.

Love the Final Fight characters.

[pherai]

2009 really is a year of bold moves. For example, this week I tried farting in front of girls for the first time ever.

I hope Arcsys and Capcom read this post. You can learn from this guy.

[System_1]

2009 really is a year of bold moves. For example, this week I tried farting in front of girls for the first time ever.

I applaud you.

[raxzar]

Capcom went 2.5D so they kind of are joining the 3D bandwagon. I hope they will be encouraged not to since they are working on HD remixes. This shows there is still a a large demand for 2D.

Dont think they gonna go back anymore to 2D. 2,5D brings them more money in the house.

[System_1]

Dont think they gonna go back anymore to 2D. 2,5D brings them more money in the house.

Not according to Capcom.

[Hecatom]

They all needed to do something new. Especially SNK, since they’ve been lazy for too many years with their sprites.

So…

SNK has a hardcore fanbase, so they have to go oldschool while making things exciting. What they do is listen to their fans by keeping it 2D while having new sprites. Add a few new features and it’s a whole new ballgame. Now you’ve got a game that’ll sell to its intended audience.

Arc System Works has also a hardcore fanbase, so they go with what has worked before. They continue to make amazing 2D graphics and fast paced gameplay, but makes a cast/franchise to keep things fresh. Seems like a solid concept to me.

Capcom wants to expand their fanbase to reach their long lost audience from the 90’s. So they make it 2.5D to appease the most amount of people. Put in familiarity, new things, and some fresh faces. Now you’ve got a game that is selling well atm.

They do what sells. That’s about the gist of it.

fixed, Sammy doesnt have anything to do about the BB franchise, they only published 2 GG games, but they didnt developed them, Sammy is only a publisher

[System_1]

^^Wow. My bad, completely forgot about ASW. I’ll go edit that, thanks.

SNK is no better quite frankly. Yeah KOFXII is hand drawn 2D sprites but it’s all being drawn over 3D models.

That may be the case, but it doesn’t take away the fact that it looks loving amazing! I’m pretty sure they put more work into these than SFIV’s.

[orka]

I think one HD Remix was enough. As much as the concept is novel, ‘remixed’ games are technically not ‘new.’

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having attachment to CVS2, MVC2, 3S, Vampire, etc. but I think it becomes a problem when they deter people from trying out new options. That’s basically what made the U.S. scene stuck in year 2002 for good five years or so.

People should always be actively exploring new games that are offered in their ways, in my opinion.

[cptrugged]

I think one HD Remix was enough. As much as the concept is novel, ‘remixed’ games are technically not ‘new.’

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having attachment to CVS2, MVC2, 3S, Vampire, etc. but I think it becomes a problem when they deter people from trying out new options. That’s basically what made the U.S. scene stuck in year 2002 for good five years or so.

People should always be actively exploring new games that are offered in their ways, in my opinion.

This is goddamn right. Folks get waay to hung up sometimes. Especially on the whole 2D vs 3D thing.

[System_1]

I think one HD Remix was enough. As much as the concept is novel, ‘remixed’ games are technically not ‘new.’

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having attachment to CVS2, MVC2, 3S, Vampire, etc. but I think it becomes a problem when they deter people from trying out new options. That’s basically what made the U.S. scene stuck in year 2002 for good five years or so.

People should always be actively exploring new games that are offered in their ways, in my opinion.

I feel you, I want to try new stuff all the time. But there’s a lot of classics that’ll feel “new” when you add online play. It’s hard enough for some of us that don’t have good competition close by. With just the examples of HDR and SFIV, I think there’s ample market for both to make the genre grow faster.

[vapulus]

2009 really is a year of bold moves. For example, this week I tried farting in front of girls for the first time ever.

This, sir, is a slippery slope.

I was out with my best friends and girlfriend (at the time) several years ago at a bar here in Chicago. I actually got the bright idea to place my asscheeks directly ON my girlfriend before farting.

I didn’t hear the end of that for the better portion of a year.

Also, one of my friends has a theory that male farts turn women into lesbians. It hasn’t been proven, yet, but it’s something to be wary of.

[Hecatom]

This, sir, is a slippery slope.

I was out with my best friends and girlfriend (at the time) several years ago at a bar here in Chicago. I actually got the bright idea to place my asscheeks directly ON my girlfriend before farting.

I didn’t hear the end of that for the better portion of a year.

Also, one of my friends has a theory that male farts turn women into lesbians. It hasn’t been proven, yet, but it’s something to be wary of.

my god, yeah, its true, men farts turn women into lesbian, i would release the detailed study the next week so stay tuned

[Phoenix_Azure]

I like where this is going

[radicaledward101]

This is goddamn right. Folks get waay to hung up sometimes. Especially on the whole 2D vs 3D thing.

I’ve gotta admit, I might be “hung up” on 2d vs. 3d. I just can’t play 3d games with any interest! That being said there are a few games in the 3d genre coming up I may have to try. Dissidia: Final Fantasy looks awesome. Dissidia also fits into the whole “new direction” for fighting games imho. I might try T6 when it comes out, but I’m not going to buy it until I know I like it… I didn’t like T5.

For 2d vs. 2.5d the truth is there is no difference. The choice is merely an artistic one. It has no effect on gameplay. With SFIV being the top 2.5d fighter as of now, people may begin to associate clunky gameplay with 2.5d graphics. This is a failure in logic which is quite common.

[Momotaro]

Isn’t 2.5D easier to do?

[ShadowSkill]

I like 2.5d personally I’ve never understood why some people are so die hard 2d to the exclusion of everything else. I’m not sure I like the art direction of sfIV but I tend not to notice it too much while playing the game.

[Hecatom]

2.5d sucks, long live 2d :rock:

[hyperpyro]

Remember to look into the bigger picture of things; that while not fighting games, Capcom has made other strong IPs along the way(Resident Evil, Megaman, Devil May Cry, etc.). It allowed them to take a more risky approach to appeal to the modern day casual gamer by turning the main Street Fighter series 3D, graphic wise(and as stated earlier, still retain its 2D gameplay). Because if SF4 had bombed for some reason, they’ could just try to sweep it under the rug and stick with their popular non-fighting game IPs.

As oppose to SNK and Arc System Works, whose success lies in their fighting game IPs; if KOFXII or BB fails for whatever reason, it would be a devastating blow to them. Thus, they probably will continue to cater to their smaller audience just because its safer and it has been working for them thus far. But still, it will be interesting to see what SNK and Arc System Works do after this seeing how well SF4 has been received by a much wider audience…