Damage wise, that does less damage than HK Roundhouse into HH.
Oh yeah true. Thatās usually even better due to scaling
HK HH does the same damage as H Sky Rocket, so actually adding in a 3rd Move (Not counting hits, but a move itself) Makes the Damage Better. My Typical Launcher Combo does 20 more damage than Roundhouse to HH Because of it. Give it a shot, see for yourself.
im relearning my team of Hworang poison and poison and lili so gonna keep an eye out on this thread.
Ok so now he should be able to go into fla stance 2 frames faster from tsunami kick, but it feels just the same as 2012 to me. The most I can connect with is fla LP, maybe my timing is off for some of his better stance combos.
So Hwoarangās General āGameā is still the same, but with all the system changes and changes to his own combo potential, Hwoarangās got even more to work with. Since he can play Footsies with the best of 'em, Hwoarang can apply pressure and apply what I call āPseudo Relaxation Momentsā. Essentially With Hwoarangās Fadeaway Kick, he can jump over an opponentās low hitting maneuvers and catch them for a continuation of the combo. He can also try their patience. Badgering them with his Pokes and Dynamite Heel pressure, before entering Flamingo Stance and taking a hop back. The opponent may try to reversal their way out, which for you is a good thing. And the pressure game continues!
What are Hwoās best new combos with no meter? With Flamingo and without.
With one meter itās so sweet to get 400 off of the fMK OH 
Even without the link into FlaMP. I just do fMK-Fla LK-MK-EXHH-jHK-crMP-HK HH.
Did you find any useful new setups for his Super. Something with Heel or so? I canāt really find anything great with heel.
Btw: HK ARS from max height straight jump in the corner crosses up
He has also retained his fla stance os tech. All you gotta do is switch both QC1 and 2 to preset 1 . I hate that i suck at fla combos. Even tho the trasition is faster i still cant get it. I can get my nina combos but not hwoarangs.
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learis1
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Biggest changes Iāve noticed:
- Tsunami kick: Hwo can now link this into his flamingo mp (Iām pretty sure itās a 1 frame link but itās much easier on counterhit). Thanks to the 120dmg from flamingo mp, Iāve been able to get meterless boost combos from this of 400 dmg which is pretty nuts.
- Air raid special: Can now definitely combo when hitting crouchers or the feet of standing opponents, making it much more useful for blowing up anti-air normals.
- Better pressure and confirms thanks to buff on cr, mp. Iām still not sure exactly how much quicker it is and the extra frame advantage it has, but I can now link into attacks instead of always having to go for one of his strings to confirm something.
- St mp is a good far range anti-air now. Itās not that necessary against most jumpins since his dp was already very good at beating attacks from most ranges that would hit you. It does come in useful for stuffing neutral jumps and people jumping back in the corner.
- Groundbounce on dynamite heel on airborn foes. This seems useless as far as most combos go.due to it eating up practically all your juggle potential. It does however have use for groundbouncing backdashers on wakeup if timed right. The hp version can even catch chun-liās backdash and lead to a big combo.
- His flamingo hk also has some anti-air invincibility as well as floating opponents in the air. Itās invincibility spots are pretty weak and it has bad startup so I find it gets beaten out a bunch making it not useful. You can use it similar to dynamite heel to float backdashers, but I think itās a worse option since it cant hit crouchers. Its best use is probably against neutral jumps and ppl jumping back in the corner. Hereās a nice simple corner combo to punish jumps: Flamingo hk xx dynamite heel, then hard sky rocket.
Nerfs: Biggest nerf in my opinion is his mp chained to hp being much more unsafe due to hp no longer pushing back on a blocked boost combo. But the entire cast has nerfs like this. Still, It hurts Hwoarangās ability to use longer range footsies to lead into big dmg. Not the end of the world.
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new aa combo! lk.dp cr.mp xx lp.dh lp.dp xx rh.dp. sorry i dont remember all the names of the moves. But i used to do just lk.dp cr.mp rh.hh which does 300 and this new one does 349 and u could swap the cr.mp with st.rh if u get them high enough and it does 379
So now crLP and crLK are framedata wise exactly the same. So crLK is obsolete isnāt it?
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What are your new hitconfirms? More links, less strings?
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What are the moves you use most to setup Pandora? EX HH obviously.
But what about no meter setups? I thought HK HH is good for it, but everytime I try to go into Pandora with Hwo and the opponent still bounces, Ogreās Super misses.
Heel? Well, starting from Fla MP-MP? Not so great and a bit situationalā¦
I usually use cr.LK to attack out of blockstun because I can āplinkā it with LP to help with timing. cr.LK also has a bit less pushback when you do it up close, so itās better for setting up tick throws.
Ah good point. Even the range is just a tiny tad smallee on crLK. What about the other points? You know him really well.
Thanks Doc.
Yours, Doc
I havenāt really explored new links or pandora setups yet. Iām still using most of the same combos as before.
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Correct me if Iām wrong, but I donāt think pandora resets juggle counters like switch cancelling does. At least thatās what Iām guessing since so many things just whiff when they shouldnāt. I havenāt done much testing, but iron heel definitely works for starting pandora, and I imagine his chainsaw kick does as well. You could already do very good damage off of these if you have meter, but if you donāt then at least pandora allows you another option for getting 400+ damage.
You still working on that new beginner guide?
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Mannnn, This guide is finna be the junk. I have a video in production as well. Demonstrating my New Hwoarang BnB. And most like will be the BnB because its the most consistent and works anywhere on the screen. 443 Solo. no gems. Gonna be epic. Stay tuned.
Part of the new guide is upā¦check it out. I have that Bnb on there. gonna finish updating later today.
