Necalli General Thread: Necalli enters the Tournament!

[Norse_Fury]

Df hp

[otakugamer223]

His overhead combos on crush counter, which is kinda ridiculous. I’ve only been able to get st.roundhouse to land, maybe EX rush punch or super can land.

[Necrotrophic]

good to know. i thought it looked like an overhead

[Gamogo]

Loving this walk speed buff. It’s just what he needed.

I also notice c or s.hp doesn’t combo after cross-up mk. Substituting for s.mk > c.mp xx lk slash (or EX stomp) instead.

I’d like to see his j.mk’s cross-up reach improved a little bit, but otherwise I think as Necalli stands right now he’s fun as hell.

[paulow3b]

He has zero whiff punish potential, however. I spent a good hour trying to find options against charlie’s normals to no avail. Cr.mk wont reach, st.hk is too slow (can score lucky crush counters but that is it).

He is a little less effective this time overall. His footsies was aways limited but his former frame traps and vtrigger made up for that. Now i believe he’ll struggle against some characters.

That’s exactly what I think.

[paulow3b]

he has a kara throw with sweep

Wow, how do I do that?

[paulow3b]

BNBs:
max damage (non CH) st.fierce QCF MK, cr.mp LP rush/HP uppercut
1 max damage (CH, use after blocking a DP) St.HK, slight walk forward QCF MK, cr.mp LP rush/HP uppercut
low confirm: cr.lk cr.lp QCF KK
CH overhead, st.roundhouse
CH cr.mp, cr.mp LP rush
CH cr.mk QCF MK, cr.mp LP rush
EX command grab, HP DP
HK stomp, EX DP, but never found a use of that.

**2 W/ V trigger I haven’t found any new combos that weren’t mostly the same, although I know you can do cr.mp into MP rush instead of LP.
**

3 Antiair: from what I can tell MP shoryuken, EX shoryuken
**4 Air to air: j.HK and j.MK have great hitboxes. Air to ground: j.HP hits really low, j.hk . **

That’s all I got for now, but like to know more about the properties of his moves and what changes in V-Trigger.

1 In fact, after landing a crush counter st.HK, you can actually slight walk forwad st.HP>medium stomp>cr.MP>LP rush for maximum damage.
2 You can cr.MK>HP upperct of any distance while in V-Trigger and cr.MK into LP rush too.
3 For me, HP shoryuken is his best. I landed multiple ones successfully as an anti ar and during wakeup.
4 You forgot his j.MP that is good to follow up with a HP shory.

[Gamogo]

Am I correct in assuming HP dp is our go-to anti air? It seems to smash through almost everything pretty well. I was originally using mp and found it getting stuffed or trading hopelessly.

[otakugamer223]

1. Yeah I meant walk up forward st.fierce, forgot to include that sorry.
   But yeah, rest I did not know worked, thanks a lot. Any nuances about his v trigger that is different, besides the ones you already mentioned?

[Angerus]

id really like a safe jump

4f safejump
Crush counter sweep, s.HP, jump + attack

5f safejump
Crush counter sweep, c.HP, jump + attack

[Necrotrophic]

thanks!

[TheOneVexal]

so what is cr.mk good for if not for stomps?

You can use it after cr.HP xx MK stomp as a link which can be canceled into either another MK stomp or an EX stomp.

Example: cr.HP xx MK Stomp, cr.MK xx MK/EX stomp

hope I helped

[TheOneVexal]

Am I correct in assuming HP dp is our go-to anti air? It seems to smash through almost everything pretty well. I was originally using mp and found it getting stuffed or trading hopelessly.

Dp good for farther jumps, because it helps avoid trading, but the other go to is cr.HP

[TheOneVexal]

I really like Necalli’s V-Skill target combo, arguably one of the best ways to build V Gauge in the game. This character is a beast.

[Necrotrophic]

so what is cr.mk good for if not for stomps?

You can use it after cr.HP xx MK stomp as a link which can be canceled into either another MK stomp or an EX stomp.

Example: cr.HP xx MK Stomp, cr.MK xx MK/EX stomp

hope I helped

i dont think that works… can you show the frame data?

[TheOneVexal]

You can DP after the HK stomp for option 3.

can also EX stomp, if its worth it

[TheOneVexal]

I’ll be playing necalli for the duration of this beta. I’ll plan on writing down notes on as much as i can and post you guys on it. Hopefully it can be of use to this lovely thread.

lookon forward to it

[TheOneVexal]

so what is cr.mk good for if not for stomps?

You can use it after cr.HP xx MK stomp as a link which can be canceled into either another MK stomp or an EX stomp.

Example: cr.HP xx MK Stomp, cr.MK xx MK/EX stomp

hope I helped

i dont think that works… can you show the frame data?

I dont have frame data but it always linked before, I didnt play beta 3 yet so can you try it for me? If cr.Mk doesnt link anymore then I’m certain cr.Mp does. I been watching vids all day.

[Necrotrophic]

so what is cr.mk good for if not for stomps?

You can use it after cr.HP xx MK stomp as a link which can be canceled into either another MK stomp or an EX stomp.

Example: cr.HP xx MK Stomp, cr.MK xx MK/EX stomp

hope I helped

i dont think that works… can you show the frame data?

I dont have frame data but it always linked before, I didnt play beta 3 yet so can you try it for me? If cr.Mk doesnt link anymore then I’m certain cr.Mp does. I been watching vids all day.

after mk stomp u go into cr mp xx rush for your bnb

however i was talking about on block really, as a pressure tool. its clear that if they block the stomp you pretty much need to not press anything

mk stomp is only good if youre going for meaty pressure, because without counter hit you can block mk stomp, in this case, lk is better

[TheOneVexal]

so what is cr.mk good for if not for stomps?

You can use it after cr.HP xx MK stomp as a link which can be canceled into either another MK stomp or an EX stomp.

Example: cr.HP xx MK Stomp, cr.MK xx MK/EX stomp

hope I helped

i dont think that works… can you show the frame data?

I dont have frame data but it always linked before, I didnt play beta 3 yet so can you try it for me? If cr.Mk doesnt link anymore then I’m certain cr.Mp does. I been watching vids all day.

after mk stomp u go into cr mp xx rush for your bnb

however i was talking about on block really, as a pressure tool. its clear that if they block the stomp you pretty much need to not press anything

mk stomp is only good if youre going for meaty pressure, because without counter hit you can block mk stomp, in this case, lk is better

true, you sure know your stuff man, hope to play with you on release day.