Tell him this that what he’s trying to do is like attempting a Y Y 1080 Fakie Ladder Stall No Scope, when you can’t even hit anyone who is standing still with a Sniper Rifle while hardscoped.
Basically, he needs to learn mechanics before he attempts to do the fancy stuff. He should watch Day[9]'s “How to get into SC2” episode, because even though it’s SC2, most of the things he says are applicable to any game.
Personally, I just studied. Before I got the game, I spent about a week or two studying up on everything Street Fighter, so when I got the game, I was somewhat familiar with the control scheme.
I think he should really just look into the genre and study terms, combos, characters, match-ups, and then apply what he has learned on the game. If he feels like he is inadequate towards your own skill, don’t play against him, sort of help him along as he practices. Maybe he should play Versus on a difficulty level he is comfortable with, fight until he is to a point where it comes easy to him, and then up the difficulty.
From experience, progression brings about advancement. The more you challenge yourself, the more you learn.
I dislike threads that ask for help on issues that have nothing to do with fighting games. If he doesn’t want to keep at it, why try to force him? If he does then he’ll keep trying.
Give him some hands on help like actually feeling out the motions with him lol, sometimes you know there is just something you need to feel once to understand it. I have had a couple of things were I read the motion 1000 times and I never got it until I actually saw it or did it on accident once.
We’ll he’s coming from the FPS-on-training-wheels to real 1v1 based games where all that really matters is how well YOU perform against your enemy, regardless of how your team being a distraction may help you.
Density I like you quotes. lol
Another good one is when a pro drops a combo, “oh no!!! He dropped the combo!!” Other guy-" what are you talking about! It was a reset!!" First guy-" yeah, uh right." Moral of the story " pros don’t drop combos. Lol
If he’s having trouble in SF4 and MvC3, he should definitely quit right now
I call those the “American Reset”. Dropped combos into throw baby. Mind games.
well he said “i wish i could do that”. use it as a stepping stone. teach him specifically what he likes about what he’s viewing. marvel is actually an EXCELLENT game for that, because of all the combos and eye-candy.
for instance, way back when i was learning marvel super heroes, i couldn’t do full aircombos. coming from sf and other fgs, it was just too many buttons in fast sequence that i couldn’t get my hands to do what my brain was telling them. i’d see other ppl doing them and say to myself “i wish i could do that” too. after quite some time, i realized a good way for me to learn them was to look at my hands as i’m doing the combo. i did that for a few hours, and began to get the hang of it. in a few more hours, i had it down. one of the other local players was VERY fresh to msh and fg’s in general, and had the same problem as me. after he saw that i finally learned to do the combos, he asked me how i learned them and i told him how. he said “but i wanna see the combo”. i said to him, you’ll eventually see them after you learn them. he took my advice, and a few days later, he was doing full aircombos himself (this guy would go on to BEAT ME DOWN in future marvel games to the point i had to ask myself, how the hell did he get so good?, when i met him, he could barely do 2 hit combos, but i was happy that i helped him level up when he was new, considering i taught him some other elements about the game as well). try that with your friend. after he begins to feel rewarded for what he’s learned, then ease him into the rest of fighting game elements. you may actually want to sandbag or use characters you’re not so good with so he doesn’t get discouraged. but once you feel he’s learned enough, thrash his ass and let him know there’s still more to work on. if he’s really learned to love fighters up until then, he’ll stick around irregardless of losing. if not, oh well, you tried.
also, let him know fps games are crap, and fighting games are where its at. haha
I fixed it for you.
I would read this:
http://sonichurricane.com/?p=3757
And if you think any of that could help, convey it to your friend somehow or let him read for himself.
In a nutshell:
And as fun as Marvel is, I’m recommend telling him to focus solely on AE as a single character. I spent the summer of '09 playing Vanilla SFIV as Chun-Li, just losing time and time again. The things I picked up on were invaluable and laid a solid foundation for learning advanced SF. You gotta get it right to get it wrong.
Well i think everyone has said what could be said about your friend, it just takes time. Ive put in more than 600 hours into ssf4ae and i only consider myself decent with a couple characters, if you want to be good you gotta no life it pretty hard an keep that desire up^^
don’t necro bump man
this us more than a month old
You need to compress the skills gap, so there’s less of a difference between a good and bad player. This is entirely what made CoD so successful and probably what keeps him engaged. In your case, this can be done by doing one of 2 things:
Or
Once he’s ENJOYING competetive fighting games and becomes more competent, try re-introducing the games you like.
… then why bump a thread that hasn’t be active in over a year?