My experience with SF4 and KOF 13 and my opinion about flaws and possible improvements

SF4 & KOFXIII suck dicks.
Terrible game designs.
Don’t waste your time trying to be good at bad fighting games my friend. They aren’t worthy of your time or anyone elses.
Get on GGPO and play really well made fighting games like KOF98, KOF2002, SF2
Lastly, read my sig.

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Please stop trying to look hardcore and oldschool. It just makes you look like an ass, especially since it’s very obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about.

They need to make Ryzing Tacku the srk motion again, hate charging that.

I don’t know whats worse, the fact that I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not, or the fact that you may actually be serious.

Yunno what dumbfounds me?
That 09ers complain about the gimmicky additions to Ultra.
Like red focus, Double ultra, and delayed wake up introductions to the gameplay.
lol, why?
Why complain?
What? Coz they’re obviously gimmicky?
So?
So now you are starting to notice things are aren’t well thought out at Capcom HQ? That things are amiss? That the devs for SF4 don’t know what they’re doing.
Now you notice bro?

You know what a construction manager is bro?
He’s the guy in charge of building construction.
You know what he’ll say if he sees that the groundwork/foundation for a building wasn’t done right?
he’ll say "tear it all down…and let’s start over from the beginning."
Coz he knows if the foundation, the groundwork is fucked up no matter what amount of patching is done, nothing will make that building safe. None.
Better to tear everything down and start over, than to try an endless amount of patching and fixes that will never ever make it solidly constructed.

well.
That’s the complete opposite of what happened with SF4.
Vanilla SF4 was a 100% shittily made game. Tons of design, technical, and conceptual flaws.
Retards made that game.
Then they patched it,…called it Super. Then repatched it called AE, then another stitching and called 2012.
But its all trash man. You can’t fix something that’s inherently broken at its core.
Now this new patch called Ultra, is just more mud on mud.
Coz its all mud.
Coz when you add too many colors to the palette you end up with mud.
Its only now you see the trashiness of the game coz the mountain of garbage added onto it is so high that even the blind eyes of 09ers(blind from inexperience)can’t help but see.

Now you 09ers are starting to see whats been there all along bro.
Garbage. just a big pile of dookie.
Its just sad it took you this long to see what was there all this time.
Now you begin to see that this heap of garbage that is so high…that its only a matter of time before it all topples over and buries you all.
It’ll topple over coz it has no solid foundation to keep it propped up for much longer. There’s a limit to how many times you can patch a dirty rag bro.
And Ultra is its limit.

KoF isn’t like SF.
KOF isn’t about multiple reiterations of the same game. Or variations of the same theme.
Each game stands alone.
But god fucking help me if each new KoF game is worse than its predecessors.
Each game strays farther and farther away from the core game mechanics that once made KOF so good.
KoF XIII is unrecognizable to 98, the best KOF game even to this very day.
And that’s a bad thing.

See, there are people who have a passion, a real passion to produce their baby. Their love child. Their joy, their wonder, their project, their game.
And those same people sometimes are lucky funding-wise to make their game.
And most of the time it turns out bad. But sometimes its good.
When its good, it gets popular.
But those people, those same developers leave their creation. For whatever the reasons may be, but they leave. And when those visionary people leave, new blood take their place. But those people aren’t the game’s creators so they don’t truly grasp the essence of the game. What makes it good. So they lose sight of what made the game popular to begin with. Then they start adding their own misguided inexperienced naive herp derp gimmicky bullshit and you end with an ever increasingly bad series that only gets worse with every higher numerical value tacked on to its title.
I guess its something unavoidable.

all I know is.
I’d rather play SF2 than SF4…and with good reasons and not bad ones.
And I’d rather play 98 than 13 an day of the week for the same reasons.

If you enjoy playing 4 and 13 then I don’t know what to tell you other than rethink your views on those games.
It may shine like gold to you,
but it shines like fool’s gold to me.
I know gold…and that’s no gold my friend. its not even copper, let alone silver.

100% chance this dude has no idea how any of the games he claims to like actually work

I doubt it’s a troll, nobody would write so much text in a manner that nobody is going to read.

also really appreciate the bit about auto block making SF4 shitty and how ST is so good in comparison. literally LOL

I’d like to read PupilOfPlato’s stance on Guilty Gear and BlazBlue

As long as the original creators of those games are still influential and part of the team, things should be fine.

Capcom dont love Sf anymore, there i would agree

Hey guess what, you can let go of the stick and you will remain blocking as long as you’re in blockstun.

The only Street Fighter game without autoguard was 3rd Strike.

ha yeah that’s what I was getting at. it’s pretty funny to see someone praise ST, shit on SF4, not even mention 3s, and then bring up autoguard as a reason. you think autoguard is stupid? then there’s really only one SF game that should interest you. welcome to the world of street fighter III.

I’d rather he not play 3S as I’m sure he’s bound to start bitching about how the game is “broken” and how Chun was designed for noobs to be able to compete or how parries ruin fundamentals or some jazz like that.

Looks like someones nostalgia goggles is on too tight. Seems like only surgery can remove them.

Does it really make you feel good to shit on everything that aren’t scriptures of the past? I actually agree with some of your points, it’s a pity that you sound like a brainless, retard fanboy.

There’s MK and Injustice, but I would assume you wouldn’t like those games.

As far as the online experience, better netcode would go a long way.

Trials: don’t put a lot of weight on them. Better tutorials would help, but we know that won’t happen (at least not from the big shots).

Learn the basics of the game. Watch videos. Study. It’s how you get better. The games have design flaws (like every game), but they aren’t that bad (if they were, nobody would play them).

You know would be a great addition to Ultra SF4?

To add on to the new red focus, double ultras, and delayed wake up?

Auto attack.
its where you hit a button and the cpu takes over doing a long sting factory made combo.
Great idea right!?!?!

You do a 3 hit combo and hit the new auto attack button and let go of your controller, get up and leave the game, go to your kitchen, make yourself a sandwich, come back after finishing your meal, pick up your stick, and pick up where the cpu left off in your combo.

its handholding and gimmicky at its very best!

Hey!
Don’t you dare call it a bad idea!

If you don’t mind auto block being incorporated into the game…why would you ever mind an auto attack?

See…

I told you you’re all stupid. And you tried to deny it too.
sad.

SF3 turd strike sucks too.
don’t get me started on that game.

you’re trying too hard man

and auto-guard and easy-mode settings existed in fighting games in the arcade back then too

Considering the complete lack of knowledge you seem to possess about every fighting game ever, I’m sure your insights about it would be delightful

Just kidding

They wouldn’t be

With all the flags, I wonder if @Preppy is just looking at this thread and laughing his head off.

Have no idea where this topic is going. Im no fan of certain game but making thread about them seem pointless. Why even cornern yourself over game you dislike?