My Dear Fellow Bison Brethren

piskooooo · 2011-08-09T04:50:31.000Z

I want all his normals to deal chip damage

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hellotherekyle · 2011-08-11T19:27:33.000Z

Cr.HP for sure. Buff it up, yo.

ShadolooDoll · 2011-08-11T19:57:56.000Z

so you guys tweeting or just posting stuff here >.>

Reversing_Devil · 2011-08-21T01:28:50.000Z

piskooooo:

I want all his normals to deal chip damage

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Sektor · 2011-08-21T02:41:23.000Z

A bit off topic but what do you think will happen to Bison considering the nerfs they’re probably going to hand out to some of the cast

stabicron · 2011-08-21T11:29:35.000Z

Sektor:

A bit off topic but what do you think will happen to Bison considering the nerfs they’re probably going to hand out to some of the cast

If they are smart no changes or some minor buffs. Personally I am pulling a wait and see since Capcom isn’t always that smart.

Morm · 2011-08-21T18:57:10.000Z

Well, at least they are smart enough NOT to listen to some players’ continuous whining.

To the original poster : buffing Bison would be absurd considering he’s already stronger that 60-70% characters in this game. The point of rebalancing is making characters more balanced (duh), not making your favorite character the new god tier.

kisaku1218 · 2011-08-21T20:10:04.000Z

ok if this game is balance, why there is Tier?? (duh?

Fist of North star, the good example of unbalanced balance.
Bison is strong, but that just the freaking number, and he is more double edge sword style combine, he have best offense and some of worst defense int the game.
since WORST defense in some case is one of his prime point (no solid anti air for sure, people jump in for free, and I can try AA but once I miss the cost is greatly at Bison disadvantage) and why his offensive also getting nerf?

for whining part, if majority the people was not blocking (the round house) and blame is over powerful, look what they did to honda? the player start leaving honda.
I don’t believe balance is the goal, if balance is the goal should be like this:

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/kisaku1218/UKfrl.jpg

the point to buff bison is that at least we try to get our offensive back, so much character still around that can CHOSE totally refuse to play bison game, they have fear for his stuff for long, the keep away game is ONLY way they have guaranteed win, if you want to play for win like guaranteed win in MU/in tier, Bison is really not your friend. We bring hype before Andre/Andyocr/Tuc/Kim1234/ grandmaster etc, but ever have consistency?? no

if you want hypes and play close range game with Bison, you know what I am talking about, and his scissor range increase kill this already, and he can’t get back in free like some cast did, Akuma can pretty much breeze walk and keep him AWAY the whole time, and refuse Bison totally, even patient SIM can did the same.
and some said YOU CAN’T DO IT NOT MEAN BIPSON CAN’T.
yeah I am not bipson, but I mean even top tier player have problem and have good win/lose ratio with bison, why not just give his sht back??
some 7/3 and 6/4 MU is not GOD TIER character should have, you can almost said trash tier because if you hate Bison you will get a Guile.

EcKo_Zero_Cool · 2011-08-21T21:22:10.000Z

so what should i tweet to him ?

i think he should have a damage increase and a solid aa.

but theres no way of that happening

SoVi3t · 2011-08-25T00:30:41.000Z

I sent him a dead hooker with the phrase “change U2 back to QCFx2” carved across her chest

ShadolooDoll · 2011-08-25T09:57:03.000Z

SoVi3t:

I sent him a dead hooker with the phrase “change U2 back to QCFx2” carved across her chest

Why are you so good? LOL

Reversing_Devil · 2011-08-25T15:46:26.000Z

I don’t mind the slight buffs they give Bison in AE 2012. As long as Twins, Fei and Viper are getting nerfs and then it’s all good (already seen from eventhubs), but I doubt this will be the final update patch…lol

stabicron · 2011-08-26T05:20:00.000Z

Reversing_Devil:

I don’t mind the slight buffs they give Bison in AE 2012. As long as Twins, Fei and Viper are getting nerfs and then it’s all good (already seen from eventhubs), but I doubt this will be the final update patch…lol

All the scrubs with those characters are gonna be lobbying hard to get some of those nerfs reverted I bet. Nevermind the fact that at least in the case of every char besides possibly Yang, they are still very viable they only had the bullshit nerfed. Poor babies have to work for their wins now.

Bronub · 2011-08-26T08:01:24.000Z

kisaku1218:

ok if this game is balance, why there is Tier?? (duh?

Fist of North star, the good example of unbalanced balance.
Bison is strong, but that just the freaking number, and he is more double edge sword style combine, he have best offense and some of worst defense int the game.
since WORST defense in some case is one of his prime point (no solid anti air for sure, people jump in for free, and I can try AA but once I miss the cost is greatly at Bison disadvantage) and why his offensive also getting nerf?

for whining part, if majority the people was not blocking (the round house) and blame is over powerful, look what they did to honda? the player start leaving honda.
I don’t believe balance is the goal, if balance is the goal should be like this:

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/kisaku1218/UKfrl.jpg

the point to buff bison is that at least we try to get our offensive back, so much character still around that can CHOSE totally refuse to play bison game, they have fear for his stuff for long, the keep away game is ONLY way they have guaranteed win, if you want to play for win like guaranteed win in MU/in tier, Bison is really not your friend. We bring hype before Andre/Andyocr/Tuc/Kim1234/ grandmaster etc, but ever have consistency?? no

if you want hypes and play close range game with Bison, you know what I am talking about, and his scissor range increase kill this already, and he can’t get back in free like some cast did, Akuma can pretty much breeze walk and keep him AWAY the whole time, and refuse Bison totally, even patient SIM can did the same.
and some said YOU CAN’T DO IT NOT MEAN BIPSON CAN’T.
yeah I am not bipson, but I mean even top tier player have problem and have good win/lose ratio with bison, why not just give his sht back??
some 7/3 and 6/4 MU is not GOD TIER character should have, you can almost said trash tier because if you hate Bison you will get a Guile.

An…interesting post. However, answer me this. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Walking0rgasm · 2011-08-26T09:21:06.000Z

Reversing_Devil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=PSwhNPXStyo&gl

I larted

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JalenSRK · 2011-09-04T00:55:44.000Z

Reversing_Devil:

I don’t mind the slight buffs they give Bison in AE 2012. As long as Twins, Fei and Viper are getting nerfs and then it’s all good (already seen from eventhubs), but I doubt this will be the final update patch…lol

I don’t see why Viper should get nerfed at all. She’s been pretty much the same throughout the SFIV series and now that we have serious Viper players doin damage in the tourney scene, now she gets nerfed. That’s really stupid.

The_Beautiful_One · 2011-09-11T02:14:53.000Z

Morm:

Well, at least they are smart enough NOT to listen to some players’ continuous whining.

To the original poster : buffing Bison would be absurd considering he’s already stronger that 60-70% characters in this game. The point of rebalancing is making characters more balanced (duh), not making your favorite character the new god tier.

The problem with your logic is that the vast majority of people use the 30-40% of the characters that give him trouble. The fact that lower tier characters are really broken/made shitty by Capcom doesn’t mean anything to me because it’s not my problem. Many here believe, understandably, that if 30-40% of the characters are complete that there’s no reason Bison shouldn’t be part of that 30-40%. And if you’re willing to concede that low tier characters players have a justifiably huge gripe, then you also have to concede that everyone else has a justifiable gripe as well, and that it’s just a matter of extent.

Bison is nowhere near god tier, and the more I play him against skilled zoning players (3600+pp) the more inadequate he feels. Especially compared to higher tier characters, whose defense and offense are BOTH formidable, Bison doesn’t feel complete. Like a chunk of his game was left off, and it’s up to you, the player, to compensate somehow. It’s like with Bison, there’s a glass ceiling. Giving you the feeling that were you to bring all your skills and hard work to a more complete character, you’d be several hundred points higher in PP, at least.

Bison can be zoned like crazy, and at the same time, going after him can be very rewarding. He just feels imbalanced. And don’t use the bullshit comeback that I’m a noob. I’ve been playing this game for years and I’m around 3400 pp in AE online. The main thing is, he can win, but the fucking wins feel like pulling teeth, and often you need some help from the opposition in the form of serious mistakes. And yes, I would play a different character if there were ANY other characters that played remotely close to Bison, but there aren’t. Trust me, I’ve tried and looked for a secondary to replace him.

The_Beautiful_One · 2011-09-11T02:18:06.000Z

Bronub:

An…interesting post. However, answer me this. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Proofreading is your friend.

The_Beautiful_One · 2011-09-11T02:23:32.000Z

To add insult to injury, there’s very little evidence that Capcom strives to make the game as balanced as possible. Yun and Yang are obvious examples (and the reasons for the imbalance defy belief). So you lose a match against a better equipped character and immediately feel pissed that you’re put in a shitty situation, use a character that’s more complete that you don’t like playing or accept that you’re just going to be at a disadvantage against people who happen to like higher tier characters.

ShadolooDoll · 2011-09-11T03:50:51.000Z

The_Beautiful_One:

Bison can be zoned like crazy, and at the same time, going after him can be very rewarding. He just feels imbalanced. And don’t use the bullshit comeback that I’m a noob. I’ve been playing this game for years and I’m around 3400 pp in AE online.** The main thing is, he can win, but the fucking wins feel like pulling teeth, and often you need some help from the opposition in the form of serious mistakes.** And yes, I would play a different character if there were ANY other characters that played remotely close to Bison, but there aren’t. Trust me, I’ve tried and looked for a secondary to replace him.

I totally agree. When I see top level Bisons win, they rarely are super comfortable wins. You have to work so hard, capitalize as hard on mistakes, yet… Dictator still does it somehow…

been speaking to many Bison players, including high level ones. They all say similar things: he is boring character, but he works.

He seems very draining to play mentally at higher levels too.

But he gets the job done.