MvC3: Two Girls one Corpse: The Hsien-Ko Thread!

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Yeah I have been playing her A LOT recently and I am loving her. She does get rushed down pretty hard though by really fast characters. But I am finding these three assist to be really great for helping you get in or keep people off. Doom Missles, Sentinel drones (though I hate playing him), Chun Legs, and Amy’s Cold star. The missiles are especially good for both. One of my friends was saying they played a Hsien Ko that would use V. Joes bomb assist in conjunction with her bomb to force heavy zoning characters closer.

A couple minor notes on damage on the Hsien-ko/Doom/Phoenix combos I listed before:

the M M Lgong L S aircombo brings meterless damage to 313,600 compared to sub-300k. Again, doesn’t allow a hyper followup if you were going for that unless your opponent is cornered. If they are cornered, it does seem to lead to a little more damage than cutting the aircombo to M M S. Leaves you miles away if used midscreen, although you can safely catch up with H pendulum if they don’t roll forward.

For combo 2 (using TK shot to combo into pendulum), it doesn’t seem to work against smaller crouching opponents (had tested it on Sentinel.) Doing pendulum -> j:m: j:m: instead of pendulum -> j:s: increases the damage of the combo to ~400k meterless and removes the distance dependence. Tacking on Tenraiha at the end gives 540k-560k total damage depending on how close you are. I imagine other characters with stronger extenders can do this easier, but the extender needs to do 3 or less hits or the scaling probably makes it impossible.

If I did default meterless combo midscreen into Chireitou, I could switch to Phoenix, teleport, and do a quick combo, but for some reason the histun decay is huge at this point even though there aren’t a whole lot of hits, so I could only do st:s: :uf: j:h: j:s: into oki. Want to test this more.

Anyone having trouble facing Taskmaster with Hsien-Ko. Can’t use gong against his arrows and he can zoned her out without too much ease. Super jump and pendulum to get across the screen doesn’t work much. I’m at a loss with that match-up. Any suggestions?

M gong recovers faster and gives you a better window for doing 2H 6H. I need to experiment with that air gong combo, though. That looked awesome.

For what it’s worth, if I remember correctly you can X-factor out of Tenraiha midscreen to do something similar to the Chireitou-the-other-way in that video. I think I had time to cross-up dash after x-factor activation and Chireitou in the other direction, if I was too close to the corner to get full hits.

Made this video for fun today, maybe it’ll come in handy?
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Hm? Why can’t you use gong against arrows?

Totally bad ass video sir. Surpises, Storm’s Whirlwind just eats through it, that is depressing. Sentinels last drone makes it through, not surprising but still annoying. Powered up Arthur lance eats through it too, that is interesting but not altogther unexpected. Two gongs colliding was interesting too.

This video really saves me some time as well thanks a ton. This might actually be helpful enough to stick in the hyper guide.

Nice find with the loop. Working on it and definitely M Gong makes it far more easier.

Was trying out her possible Kara potential with her command grab. 6:h: and 5:m: worked out well for me, but the one that produced the most range was from her 6:h:. It grabs roughly almost a character away with the L version of the grab. Heavy seems to be smaller in the range, as I couldn’t grab Capt from about the same distance. And like we don’t already know, the kara seems to be kinda slow. Just another option for her form of ‘rushdown.’

Oh, and Taskmaster Vertical Arrows immediately pelt the foe down while you launch them, so I got some interesting reset situations out of that. I think I may have also triggered another form of her gong loop, but it’s such a pain to initiate. Have Task set the arrows while you’re in your magic series and then launch. Follow them and cast the gong immediately. With good luck, you should be able to strike’em with the :m: or :h: gong (whichever you did) and continue on with the loop. Only got it work once and Task’s arrows bring the foe down to the floor real quickly.

really nice on the loop find, with this i’ve come up with a new corner combo:

j.:m:,j.:s:,:d::h:,:f::h:,:rdp:+:m:,:d::h:,:f::h:,:rdp:+:m:,:d::h:,:s:,sjc.:m:,sjc.:m:,sjc.:s:,:qcb:+:atk::atk:

Meterless it’s 449.700 with special it’s 597.800

Sorry if it’s been asked, but can you dhc her gold super?

You bet. It’s infinitely helpful.

Thank god. I’ve been trying to set up safe raw tags and nothing’s been working.

Are you sure you can’t tag on another 2H 6H 421M? All of the variations I’ve done will work with that, even with a double j.M starter into M H 2H 6H 421M.

You probably can, I’ll have to try it later.

I didn’t think M gong would pop them up high enough. I wonder if after you ground loop gong if you can still go into aircombo with the gong. Probably not, but that would be good shit.

How do u punish with hsien ko. I just picked her up and I’m having trouble punishing unsafe stuff like launchers and what not Lolol.

I usually just go with H 2H S punish. If you’re feeling lucky, you can try to go for a H 236L and hope for dizzy.

damn instead of logan/dorm/akuma i might have to roll with logan/akuma/hsien ko…is her assist gonna eat up projectiles like that too>?

Just wondering if everyone already knows you can combo after Tenrai Ha, which might be why its damage is relatively low. I can connect a cr :h: into :s: into whatever after. Sorry if this is common knowledge, hadn’t seen it posted yet.

Edit: Shit is hard to do. Either timing is really strict or getting the hit depends on how the spiked balls hit and the characters hit-box etc.

It can but it isn’t out for long, but she still has a decent rush down assist in her pendulum swing. However for it to work right you need to get her in super armor first, however if you do her assist is literally unstoppable and can interrupt a lot of thing they are doing, which now all of the sudden you can make anything they do unsafe, it’s great.