I actually like the graphics in TvC a little bit better than MVC3 sorry, not on a technical level (MvC3 greatly wins there) but on charm. That somewhat clean, light-coloured cel shaded feel is very attractive, and I think the animation was somewhat better too. TvC ‘feels’ nicer, less cluttered etc.

Yes, TvC did have it’s flaws, which I outlined in an earlier post but a lot of those flaws don’t necessarily have to be flaws if you look at them a certain way. Cookie cutter combos were possible but for the most part you didn’t see characters doing cookie cutter combos. At higher levels a lot of the characters had very distinct style and combo progression. Yes, assists were somewhat universal and that was a problem, but I do have to disagree when you talk about cookie cutter combos. They are certainly possible but hardly optimal. Everyone can do magic series into launch magic series but seriously, who does that? Jwong and Marn, because they can’t be bothered to learn the optimal combos.

seriously, you’d never see either of them doing anything like this [media=youtube]gtjqmTggqjU[/media] would you? Jwong did fairly simple Jun/Chun combos, Marn did fairly standard Zero combos in comparison to some of the crazy yet practical stuff I’ve seen come from the really dedicated players. TvC didn’t have time to evolve to the point where top players would use the stronger, less failsafe combos in real matches, and that’s sad.

For some reason I just can’t wait for February 2012. :confused:

The post above is awesome.

Real Bout Fatal Fury in general is disliked because:

a) It’s not KoF, even tough it’s where King of Fighters originated.
b) It’s one on one, and you can dodge fireballs practically for free.
c) Damage is stupidly high, supers take off 3/4 of a single bar, or at least 1/2; you only get two health bars; P. supers are worse.
d) The game is basically broken very soon; Kim, Mai, Jackie-Chan guy and funny hat guy obliterate and it’s not funny.

FF3 was the best Fatal fury, but it lacked some specials; Real Bout is nice but too broken; Real Bout Special is kinda balanced but boring; it seems they NEVER got it down right; RB2 would had been more fun if it didnt have some stages with 2 planes, and some with one; and it didn’t have an obviously overpowered Kim.

I’m just saying, you’re all very spoiled and had better honor the sacrifice TvC made for your game :frowning: sniff

I still recall when SFIII came out, and everybody was dumping all over the parry system and how it broke the “flow” of th fights; the unending complaints about not having the entire SSFIIT roster, the graphics being “bad” (really!) Remember SFIII was the game that made the CPS3 board flop. That’s why MvC2 went to the Naomi board.

And even before that, when Darkstalkers wasn’t Street Fighter, and when SFA wasn’t SFIII (back when it looked like Capcom couldn’t put a 3 after a Street Fighter Title)

And now, if you ask around, each and all of those games have hardcore fans, but the newest title is garbage.

'greed

I played the game and loved it. Who I mained umm? Polimar and Doronjo. Loved that Doronjo. Because of her you would never guess who I liked to play in MvC3?

TvC was a copyright nightmare from beginning to end; if I am not mistaken they had to take out a lot of the songs and some characters even; there was no way in hell there was going to be a TvC2.

SF4/SSF4 is interesting to say the least, it’s so odd (in a good way). I think there’s “dumb” things in it (Fei Long’s HK Chicken Wing) but it’s interesting how everything works and interacts. Most people who call it bad aren’t too successful at it or [media=youtube]mhkLstMVMok"[/media].

Doronjo…I’m really not sure D: there are no strikers in MvC3. they didn’t have enough RAM for that. Maybe Trish is the closest thing I can think of that compares to her.

*another perk TvC has over MvC3. It was made on inferior hardware, yet still has more Ram available for zombies and Doronjo minions, wheras nobody in MvC3 has a real summoning attack except perhaps Tron Bonne.

I agree that the game has its heap of shit but I can’t name a game that doesn’t.

1: Weird reason to not like it.
2: Okay, I get that. But you can dodge fireballs with AB rolling in KOF, and in RB2 if you Linesway you can get hit out and comboed if you’re close enough.
3: Eh, you can kill in 2-3 combos in KOF with half the cast, and Supers were made to be un-comboable due to their damage. Some can be linked though.
4: The balance is really good. I use Krauser and can beat most rush-down characters. Rick is OP and hard to punish and probably Geese and his Kara grabs are too good but the others you mentioned are very beatable.

It’s not that simple. Fighting games have always been a mixture of strategy and execution because they are simply not a deep enough game to stand on their own without both. There needs to be a way to challenge yourself. People always compare it to how you don’t need execution to play chess, but that game has an at least six hundred year metagame going on. Our best game has twenty.

Squirrel, I get the feeling you have a tinge of hatred for MvC3 not based on gameplay but for the simple fact it seems likely to overshadow TvC.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Looks like there’s no option to enable Stage Themes :frowning:

At 30,000PP right now and no option has popped up.

I think we all get by now that you are madly in love with TvC, to say that you prefer the art style along to MvC’s slick and stylish comic book art is a bit… jarring to say the least.

I acknowledged it was a good game, but it was in large part a failure and even if you want to say otherwise the fact that the financial numbers and fanbase have to say otherwise.

But don’t let me disrespect you entirely, because you’ve made it clear how charming and interesting TvC is, and honestly I look back at using Doronjo/Casshern and Megaman/Tekkaman every now and again and will turn the game on and marvel at its interesting little advances towards the Vs. series.

MvC3 is the future, in my opinion. There is still too many things built lazily in TvC, you may say that there is a lack of cookie cutter combos (not sure why) but everything about the game was streamlined but lacked a bit of flair to it. Movesets were lazy, character types as it is are a bit hard to overlook, as playing with a character like Ryu is easily replicated when playing with someone like Batsu, Morrigan, Blade, or Yatterman. Don’t getme wrong, a few standouts like Doronjo (who I’ve never seen before) or Frank West (who has never quite been done before) stand out, but the game was alittle too flat.

The major changes in TvC are moreso cosmetic, at its most basic level the combos all generate around the same button presses into the same combos, and this is alot of what MvC3 is going to get hammered on time and time again, cause something as simple as ABCE>ABC Jump cancel > ABCD > QCF + AB or just hitting an assist untl you get the OTG, will be expected after awhile for a decent player.

TvC’s also looking at a plethora of balancing issues, as the first version had a character you could infinite, or how Chun Li was basically the answer to every problem in the game, and giant characters are just as much an interesting aside as they are dancing between overpowered (PTX) and pathetic (Gold Lightan.)

Don’t let me kill your buzz for too long, its really not that hard to shit on TvC for poor design choices and a lack of real emphasis on Capcom’s part, but I loved the same and its a shame it got little to no love back. I would rather have that, easy, charming little game be the successor then most other vs. series games, and at its core it has the same MvC vanilla charms to it, but thats about it.

Wow I just watched this and that was pathetic. I laughed so hard through that. I have seen his Akuma and he doesn’t use mix ups lol… he plays him like Ryu if Ryu had an air fireball. “I know he got mix ups” hahaha wtf??

  1. He thinks Akuma is low tier
  2. He justifies he is “beast” by bringing up his 9000 BP
  3. He thinks Rose’s Ultra lasts 10-20 seconds
  4. Instead of trying to get some value out of his disc he simply burns it

This is a new form of rage quit

who is that guy and why should i care?

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