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That doesn’t make the game suck though, that’s your opinion. Hakuto no Ken players and such probably think it’s great. In the end, if it’s competitive and works well, then it’s fine and people are going to enjoy it.

I like how you’re saying it’s competitively trash even though people have hardly had any time to establish that or not. As if you’ve got the gospel truth on the tip of your tongue. Lots of crazy stuff is possible in this game, but guess what…if your opponent can do it, then so can you.

Brawl as a game is full of faults, yet the passionate community continues to make it a popular casual and competitive game in spite of this. does anyone honestly think MvC players are going to just put MvC3 down?

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It may not be by much, but we can all agree that MvC3 will be better than SSF4.

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You guys should’ve supported Guilty Gear if you enjoyed execution. Just saying.

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It’s ironic because the game is the most tame vs game after MSH vs SF. Wut you really don’t like is that it doesn’t take long to figure out hard hitting combos. There is more to FG’s then raw damage output my good sir.

No one expected this to be as good as MvC2. But to say it’s trash? Mechanically it’s a well designed game. You just don’t like the design choice that was made and your point is valid. And it has alot of stuff going for it.

At the end of the day though the game is crazy fun and entertaining so I know it will have a scene.

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It’s a golden rule in the fighting game community that all games made after 2000 have to suck, regardless of how fun they actually are. If it’s new, it’s gotta suck! because we’re all so hardcore old school like that and want nothing to do with that animu bullshit because you know, they don’t make em like they used to back in our day (earmuffs on, step into small box, close doors)

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you can pick and choose shit like hnk to prove a point, but that game is high on execution to do a lot of that crazy shit. i own and have spent time in that game. people think that shits simple because theyve never played it. that games actually very demanding. in comparison, mvc3 is easy mode for 100 percent kill, and the mvc2 culture coming over to this game, along with a few other oldies vs game players, are all looking at this sideways, like what is this, and why. they took out mags rom, and air tempest grav combo, but gave him a brain dead 80 percent combo, that he can dhc into for free dead character. lol! GREAT! i even saw li joe in his recent vids raw tag mags back in after dhc, and the incoming character couldnt punish, cause raw tags have been too good since evo.

i dont wanna stop people from getting it, cause i still find it fun, but just sayin, be prepared to rage. its competitively the worse vs game ever made in my opinion. its like xvsf, 3v3, on super crack, and easy for anyone to do work in. haha

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Seriously this game is 10 times more fun then SF4 and better designed as well but its getting WAY more backlash then sf4 ever did. And for what? Because MvC2 was so loved and MvC3 isn’t it’s forefather in all the ways the OG’s loved?

Fuck outta here.

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This seems to be the chain of thought with a lot of things: Anime, Rap/HipHop, etc

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It seems like few people know what scrubs are. Or they choose to ignore it and call things they don’t like scrubs. Scrubs don’t have any kind of advantage in this. It doesn’t matter what the game system is because scrubs don’t play by the game system, they play by their own made up rules.

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What?

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They think that doing infinites in Hokuto no Ken is easy because they have never played the game themselves.

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All in all though, this does remind me of Brawl’s progression…like a lot.

half of the crowd crying about new changes, saying they’re bad. Half of the crowd saying it’s fine and just adapt to it. However, MvC3 is apparently a much more solid design than Brawl. Over time people discovered tons of game breaking glitches in Brawl and due to the game design it had backwards progression (the more people discovered, the less things began to work and be viable. Combos became not-combos due to air dodge and DI, etc)

I don’t think MVC3 is going to have backwards progression. New and interesting things will be found, characters will be viable. Capcom did a great job balancing TvC even though nobody plays that game, it’s still mighty good balanced for a Vs fighter. I assume they had this in mind when making MvC3.

Surely I can’t be the only one looking forward to tournaments where varied teams are winning and the tier list is a hot topic of debate due to being blurry at the higher levels?

–and for the record, I am fully aware that HNK’s execution is hard. But touch of death combos are still a big part of that game, it’s infamous for it. Execution is just an artificial barrier that’s becoming more and more obsolete as control schemes are refined.

BACK IN THE DAY, we used to rub sticks together to start a fire! It took a lot of skill, but it was also pretty tedious and irritating for all but the best stick-rubbers. Now adays we just flick on a lighter, and yet still people are setting shit on fire.

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Yeah, that is kind of true. But I’ve got to defend myself by saying that I plan to use alot of Wesker and Haggar on point in this game and based one what I’ve gotten my hands on, am really looking forward to the mind games and resets.

Rush down is a bit questionable when the person is question is using Ryu or Deadpool, yet still calling it that, so good call.

As much as they are saying that now, there were alot of vets who said they wanted nothing to do with SFIV a few years back for the same reason, standing on sopaboxes and complaining about how much that game wasn’t 3S.

Which anyone who played and loved 3S was able to figure out, but regardless of how many potential players we lost because of that game, there is still a huge tournament and playerbase for the IV franchise. I don’t think anyone shy of Jesus Christ could trash MvC3 and it not get the same following if it is as consistent as the reviews.

SFIV is many things, but its almost always regarded to as fun. MvC3’s consistent mention is how fun it is.

Eh… TvC is a good game but it failed for many reasons other then Marn and Jwong. When you’ve got great players like Kbeast out there making Marn look free, you’ve got to realize TvC’s biggest issue was its localization.

Its on the Wii, the graphics look like shit, most sticks were inaccessible, and the netcode is terrible. The most noticable and recognizable Tatsunoko character is probably Speed Racer and he’s MIA so we settle for Gachaman, and altough it was a vs. series applicant, it lacked alot of the same MvC2 charm with cookie cutter combos, combinations of characters, and generally the same whitewashed feel across the board.

TvC is a great game when cut up into bits and pieces, but fully assembled it never really came together, and without a strong following and pulling factor from the veteran players the bandwagoners were too busy with SFIV to notice.

MVC3 is a spiritual successor to both games in more then one way, but to compare Jwongs complaints to it is half baked. This present situation is anticipated, because we’re all too hyped up to play a game most of us don’t have. Of course we’re going to flock to the first things said, be they good or bad.

I’ll tell you what, if Clockwork outright shitted on the game and said it wasn’t even fun enough to play… then maybe I personally would start to have some doubt. Otherwise, fuck it I know where my money is going on Tuesday.

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Biggest difference is that Brawl is legitimately a bad game for a plethora of reasons. This game is literally being trashed because it’s too easy to do lots of damage with one combo. And too easy for whom?

MvC2 vets that have been playing the game for over ten years?

Ok? WTF DO YOU EXPECT!!?!?! It’s still gonna take a noob time to get used to the system and the mechanics. Vs games are more then combos.

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People are slow minded and like slow games. They literally crap themselves when it comes to player versus player and are so messed up in the head they need to coop themselves with this idea of being the only one to know how to use a combo.

Anything new gen really can’t get worse than SSF4. Maybe Tekken with fucken retarded combos but at least it’s not so god damn slow. To any who bad mouth MvC3 you can eat shit and play SSF4 after it is released. I don’t care to win, I just play the game, but it’s going to sweet knowing that formula players are going to be bitching now losing even to beginners who turn average when they know how to use a move for once.

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What ever happened to a game being easy to learn and difficult to master? I never understood why people were always so quick to cast away fighting games that lacked a deep and complicated system. It’s the fact that people use small things like strict execution to try and filter out the scrubs. It’s this mindset that really kills the chance at weaker games having a good community.

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well, whatever, i said my couple pieces, not gonna post up any retorts. all i know is that sent and phoenix will be getting snapped in and bodied early. dont let these videos and streams fool you, theyre not playing right. first hit you land on a team with phoenix in third, you snap that bitch in and kill her in 5 hits. trust, a week from now, no one on planet earth will be playing phoenix without having had found a meter glitch, and niggas will be snappin sent in early like in mvc2. get rid of the big man, he hurts too much. haha. he has weaknesses and this is a touch of death game, even for sent, open his big ass up.

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This statement sounds like 3rd strike to SFIV complaints all over again.

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I’m already trying to think up ways to fuck up Sent as I wait. Everyone hyping him to be so good means he’ll be one of the first characters to have strategies against.

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People will appreciate SF4 in 10 years or so. Funny thing is a lot of the people shitting on it are the people who got into the scene through SF4… they just want to sound more credible by saying this. Not pointing fingers to anyone in this thread though, just an observation.