Jwong/Marn plays TvC.
Jwong/Marn says “I don’t like these giant characters! Lol this game sucks but I play it anyway.”
Jwong/Marn fanboys suddenly decide they don’t like TvC either.
TvC gets a general bad rep despite being a pretty damn good game that would have been way more popular if it wasn’t on the Wii and/or in the wake of MvC3.
seriously, until Jwong and Marn started playing TvC, the TvC community was very hype and happy with the game, and having a lot of fun.
NAH dog. im a relatively top sc2 player and am no slouch in brood war… all the top players are pretty universally frustrated with SC2. Its imbalanced, boring to practice, too easy to play(Hard to get a lead on people who are outplaying on a technical level).
Pretty much the same shit marvel 3 sounds like it will have. top players dont want a fucking easy mode game that gives all the proficient scrubs tools to compete at higher/highest levels… and spectators dont want a game wherre they feel like matches are a coin flip and everyone is very close in skill
As a spectator, I’d rather see a close game than one where the match was decided before it began.
offcast
8104
Haha, nevermind my previous post, starting to figure out all this crazy stuff.
Yea it sucks that when the guy who puts 20 hours into the game is only barely better than the guy who put in 2-3 hours due to the dumbed down mechanics.
Will this game be that way remains to be seen though.
Well, TVC never took off because it was on the Wii (huge mistake imo) and had obscure Anime characters that few people knew about. I’m going to try to play MVC3 tomorrow and I’ll reserve judgment until then. But I get the feeling that Wong is going to eat his words, like him calling Adon low tier.
neato
8107
Both games are still new though. SC2 will continue to evolve and change. Hell, we still have expansions to go.
I have faith in Capcom and Blizzard as companies to deliver or at least try their best to deliver what the fans want. Capcom would be absolutely retarded not to make this game as competitive as possible, and I’m sure they already have a patch coming soonish to address what they believe to be problems.
I’m just not gonna get worried about what Justin says because:
-The game will evolve once we get our hands on it and everything said will be null and void
and/or
-Changes will be made to appease us.
SC2 games nowadays are a lot better than they were when the game first came out, and I’m sure they will continue to get better (because there is still a lot of room for improvement).
Mr.X
8108
Every match can’t look like finals, nor should it.
Can the game be officially released and have time to mature before everyone shits on it?
I stopped following it when it was announced for Wii. Are there any acceptable controller options (even a pad) for the Wii nowadays? I didn’t even try it even tough I liked the concept because it would have implied getting a Wii for a single game, with horrible online, terrible hardware and craptastic controller choices (The Wii is roughly 400 dollars in Mexico, it’s priced closely to a PS3 slim; so it was never considered for me as a console choice with it lacking DVD player and basically no storage capabilities at launch)
Shagyam
8110
Gamecube controller, classic controller(snes controller) and a madcatz TvC SE with better parts tham normal SEs
Did a video for a friend to show off the properties of charging star against projectiles (specifically Sentinel drones), and some final justice setups. He was worried a character like Cap would still have a hard time competing against the big 3. Hopefully he can hold up against the hordes of Arthur/Sent/Storm teams that may pop up next week :wonder:
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Only problem with this is it kind of kills the hype. One big part why EVO and a lot of the majors are awesome are because the top 8 is usually a handful of the bigger names and a couple new guys/underdogs. When a game basically just creates a random top 8 it isn’t as exciting because there isn’t much suspense. You can’t really tell who the favorites or the underdogs are. This is what makes things like upsets and what not so great.
Weren’t there balance changes between the time Wong made that comment and when the game was released?
Anyways, I think too many people are reading to far into this… The game hasn’t even hit street date yet and for all we know, the meta game might turnout to be awesome even though the execution side is a little low
Mr.X
8114
No, it sucks when the guy who put 200+ hours into the game is only barely better than the guy who put in 20 hours. 20 hours is nothing unless you do that in a day or two.
I wasn’t really going for accurate times but rather just something relative. I realize that the hours put into a game would be much more intense than just 20.
Mit
8116
So the bandwagoners came and went. The people who were hype and happy with the game in the beginning are likely still hype and happy about it (me, yay), and they’re the ones that blow up Wong and Marn now and are still coming up with ridiculous combos and playing at a level WAY higher than Wong or Marn ever reached (especially Marn, all people had to do was learn to block Zero’s mixups).
Ohshi I was mistaken on EVO. Marn was at EVO. It was fairly hype, but still boring and didn’t feature the highest level of TvC play out there. I was thinking of Socal Regionals. GCYoshi won (PTX player, which was lame, and about the only thing I don’t like about TvC, giants are like a totally different game), but KBeast and Royal Flush beat out Marn and Wong, and are clearly much, much better at the game than them.
Combos won’t be what separates scrubs from good players in this game. It will be how well you use options. That said ST isn’t about execution either. Yes there is sum crazy stuff you can do in that game, but that game is mostly just making the right moves at the right time. Oh yeah everyone does insane damage in ST as well and one mistake means death in that game too.
It is regarded worldwide as one of, if not THE greatest competitive fighter of all time.
Just sayin.
Yea I feel like people are slowly forgetting the fundamentals of fighting games. People are so worried about executing combos these days that is all they practice. Yet they don’t spend anytime learning the basics or learning how to set up these particular things they are practicing. It is more of a I should be more flashy and exceptionally heavy rather than practical and doing the proper things to win.
Hotashi
8119
What a load of crock… you just don’t want other people to play the game.
Well,I personally think we are all starting to repeat ourselves a lil to much now lol. We have streams,combo vids,etc. to talk about lets break’em down.So far ASS looks more online troll material then top 8 at EVO.
