no, i can rom til dizzy on PS2
i never heard of an infinite patched on PS2
Actually they changed alot more than P Groove and RC, it’s just that no one with an eye for such things has really even given EO a chance. I know that Sagat, Blanka, Yama… etc, all got 5% damage reductions, while King, Yuri, Vice, etc, got 5% damage boosts in EO. Not to mention they removed sagats super cancel off of Crouch Fierce.
As for updated versions being the “standard”, you’d think it’d work that way, but it really depends on how good the “update” was. For example, Guilty Gear and VF seem to be really recepetive to updates. Then again GGXX was broken as hell, #R was less broke, and Slash seems to be the most balanced game. Tekken 5.0 was broke as hell, people liked it, 5.1 was boring b/c it just nerfed everyone, and 5.2 is good.
But with SF… whole new can of worms. If it isn’t “arcade perfect” you got a whole set of bitchfests on your hands. What sucks is that these “updated” versions are usually more widely available.
Take Street Fighter Alpha 3.
PS1 nerfed Dhalsim (the best non V character) really bad.
DC has timing issues so that none of the VCs worked right
SF upper just nerfed everything.
So… instead of playing of one of these widely availible ports, SFA3 has been arcade only for years.
The deciding factor for CvS2 was that the PS2 (most widely available) release did not have the upgrades that the xbox version had, so fighting for the EO release also meant using xboxes which made the transistion too great. If PS2 had the upgrades, it probably would be more of a discussion.
Generally gamers are lazy, you need a scene to push the new upgrade on them, arcades were useful for that “sorry you have no choice, play the upgrade”. Sometime in the future there may be a scene to do the same for console versions to ensure games are updated and released properly.
Alpha 3 ports are all shitty, as stated…
umm… Tekken 5.1 wasn’t bad… 5.0 sucked cuz everybody used steve and nina and was very boring to watch… similar to how people think just cuz everybody uses sentinel in mvc2, it’s boring, but in actuality, every team plays differently, but that’s besides the point… tekken 5.0 was boring, cuz unless you used steve or nina, you were shat upon putting your token in, unless you had a really good feng or bryan, in which case, you put up a fight… 5.1, everybody got nerfed yes, but they were done so proportionally… nina was nerfed wayy too much IMO… steve was fine cuz they basically fucked up his 100%, and made him balanced again, although he’s still great due to his pokes and whatnot… i haven’t played DR yet… i want to though… but nobody around here has it…
VF upgrades? umm… i only remember 3TB, which was GARBAGE, and 4EVO which rocked the world… that to me was like, DR is to tekken…
and yes, GGXX updates are all better… i think capcom updates are always better too, except for the new challengers, which was ass… the other updates, like alpha 3 upper, alpha 2 gold, cvs2 eo, etc… were attempts to balance it out… in itself, the games wont replace the originals, but they’re good standalones IMO…
Isn’t the arcade SFA3 playable on an xbox via emulation?
I miss hearing “FINEST K.O.!!” on the Dreamcast version of CvS2. They don’t say anything on the PS2 or Xbox. Sigh.
Get the PS2 and XBOX JPN version. They are still there. It’s missing in the US version for some stupid reason.
They actually said “Finest K.O.!” in the DC version?
I thought it wasn’t supposed to have any sound, lol.
probably the best answers to that question.
I’m starting to think for American tournies we should just totally accept the console as the standard for playable tourney versions. Why try to hold on to arcade perfection when arcades are on the there way out in America? This would be easier for a new generation of players. Sure, it pains me to think of it coming to this but I’m a dinosaur and the giant meteorite is coming.
Add the GCN JPN version as well. All japanese versions of the game have that “finest KO” voice. DC version only saw a japanese release. I find it weird that they exclude it in the US and PAL versions. Rugal also does not say “genocide cuttah” in the US versions.
FUCK YOU AND YOUR BLASPHEMY!
I think we are slowly shifting that way anyway. There are still places with strong scenes, but they are getting fewer and farther between, while console owners are everywhere.
also, when you do the captain sword super w/ capcom, the game deosn’t slow down on ps2/xbox
edit: marvel on the cabinet is still the best way to play, mvc2 runs a tad faster on dc