Does Iron Man counter anyone at all?
Word…my fave character in the game.
I know that Jin’s AAA can keep Mags at bay, but I don’t know about 1-on-1. I mean, I love Jin and all, but I always have a hard time against Mags players. Jin seriously needs better comboability. You have to play Jin smart. He’s not a masher’s character even though he’s tagged as an “Easy Mode character”. The way that I play Jin vs Mags is defensively. I wait until there’s an opening or until my opponent screws up, but my win/loss ratio against good Mags players is horrible. Super armor or no super armor, I crack when I play Mags/Storm/Psy types. I also used to be a frequent Venom user and my matchups vs Mags were a lot better. Hell, my Amingo gave Mags players problems too but they evolved.
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Mags will have a bit of a problem with Jin… if Jin has meter no cross-ups because of the cyclone super, tornado kick(u. hk) is a little bit abusable since it has little lag…
I have to disagree. I think it’s very possible for Omega Red to have a good match-up versus Cable, but under the appropriate cicumstances such as Cable being the last guy on the team without an assist. I think that OR doesn’t all that well in 2-on-1 situation, but 1-on-1 he can deal. Just how badly have you seen a Cable mess up an Omega Red???
I always play OR with Doom or Sentinel’s assist. That helps against Cable… shit fills the screen and Cable can’t AHVB.
BTW… anyone READ MY SIGNATURE! Has anyone actually read the OR thread? Maybe everyone should read the strats there and try them out before saying anything.
Well, I almost perfected a Cable once… you wanna know how?
By being smart.
By not using moves at a distance.
By letting him go into patters… and attacking him when he’s over confident.
By filling shit on the screen.
By trapping him in the corner with Doom’s assist.
Super Jump canceling with burrowing coils.
I HVS… if a Cable kills your OR standing still… your OR isn’t good…
But I never said it was an easy match. Why doesn’t ANYONE read the Omega Red thread? :bluu:
I have to agree with HVS. I used to think OR could stop Cable/counter - but experience has taught me other than that. OR doesn’t have anything that really even slows cable with an assist down. Cable with CapCom, BH, Cammy, or sometimes Pyslocke, just stops OR cold. You can’t poke cable, a simple well timed push block and you die. Forget to call back coils, or cancel the dive kick thingy - death again. Try to ruch Cable down? AAA stops cold - if it doesn’t the combonation of the AAA and bullets keeps you from being on top of him…pretty much IMO leaving OR with no real offensive options.
Honestly I think Iceman is an excellent counter character - unless it is Cable or Sentinel, but even against Sentinel, with the proper gameplan and AAA he has a chance - he can do more damage than most other characters.
I think Sim is the perfect anti-neto. Whenever I am gettin harassed by Magnus - I pull Sim out with Storm and Doom, or Storm and some AAA and he gets shut down. A combonation of jumping roundhouses, s. roundhouses, and chain’s into fierce or roundhouse reall annoy Mags until he messes up. You won’t do alot of damage to mags - but with the assist you slowly chip him and disolve the oponents team. Sim and Cyclops work well together also. Cable gets hurt by Sim also. I have gone toe-to-toe with a good storm using Sim, but I think on a tourney level - that prolly wouldn’t turn out the same - Storm would prolly win. Sentinel just f#cks dhalsims high up. Sim don’t stand a chance.
No one reads the Omega Red thread.
This is patheitic… it sounds like you guys don’t even try.
Here’s a good tip.
Anything Cable does anything on the ground it can be coiled xx striked… cancel down. And BOOM your right in front of him.
Let’s be real - how often is Cable on the ground? I used to think OR could do something against cable - maybe 1v1 he has a chance, but he can’t get in close against a solid Cable let alone good. Between jumping fierces, rocks, drones, typhoons - OR just isn’t sneaking in, throw in Cable always being backed by a solid AAA and you won’t want to get too close.
Ok… you can omega strike cable after a mid air viper beam.
OR does have a problem with Cable/Sent and Doom assist from what I’ve experienced.
But Mag/Cable or Storm/Cable teams are much more OR friendly.
BTW- I don’t even use AAA w/ OR I use Doom’s assist.
hey how come when i goto grab sentinel with the lp coil, sometimes he can hit me. it’s like i started my special first but then he hits me. is this a trap?
lol a trap??
but i dont know. sent does ahve super armor but i dont think its any use v a coil thro.
Omega’s coil should go through super armor… J.Lo in your situation it might have been that he hit you before the coil came out.
Yeah thats bad if you do a move first you should win.
Damn it. I never said it was easy.
From what I have seen - Marrow makes a nice Sentinel assist counter. Her bone projectile tears thru his super armor and stops him cold, keeping the damn drones off screen. Unfortunatly I don’t think it is worth it to pick her just for that. I also find that a well timed Sonson can give a chipping storm some problems. Running around teh walls and doing the dive kick will go over typhoons and knock her out of the hailstorm…but if not timed right, you lose mad heealth with no roll potential.
Didn’t Viscant use Marrow in one match at B5?
HEAT,
Don’t worry about what HVS says. He just has an opinion. Keep playing OR to the fullest. Some people are just too clingy to top tier characters. I get shit for using Jin or Amingo, but I just play and sometimes I can kick ass with those characters. Btw, I love Viscant. Not in a sexual way:confused:. I just like how he uses a mix of bottom, mid, and high tiers in his matches whether tourney or casual and he’s for sure my MVC2 idol or the guy that I’d like to learn strats and tactics from.
I have no problem w/ someone’s opinion. It’s cool.
Rouge is good against Cable and Magz.