Yeah I have only won 1 out of the last 15…
This game is going to get me evicted, since I am yell NO at the top of my lungs every 5 seconds…
For me it’s the other way around.
I sucked fucking ass at USFIV, despite playing it a lot.
Yesterday I beat a friend of mine I’ve been sparring with in a first to 30, and took a game off a very good amateur player.
Both who I have never beaten before.
Also finally accepted that I’m a pad player by nature and retired my stick. I’m so motivated to become the best German SFV player, even though I doubt I’ll ever achieve that.
i get bodied badly. still dont know how to play this game haha. ive relied so much on Light,Medium,Special in SF4 that i dont know how to approach matches.
See now im pretty bad with anger too, i end up like hitting myself sometimes, not hard but definitely smacking myself or punching my leg, its so babyish but something just makes me so mad at certain losses
Yea man good thing the guy that lives above my condo is working grave yard and the lady next door doesnt care about noise.
I am stopping now, I just won three in a row and I had a very annoying match against dhalsim but I came up on top. So I am
gonna quit while I am ahead and feeling good about myself LOL.
Anyway Darteiga, just keep playing man. This actually reminds me of when I 1st started playing Quake 3 I was a lil late and started
in 2001 two years after its release. I was getting killed all over the place, but I was so determined to get good at that game, I started
spectating how other people play, I did my research on the command settings to optimize the way my mouse movements feels and
I also learned where all the possible spawn points are, also I kinda played 16 hours a day.
After 3 months I was beasting (and if some of you OGs might remember CSports.net- its gone now) on the leaderboards on
a few servers and mods, my name was on the top, I could get 35 frags in 1 minute. Anyways, I brought this up coz right now I am feeling
discouraged but I know if I give the same commitment that I did on Quake 3 back in the day, I can be at least decent in this game. I can’t
play 16 hours a day anymore though, I am old now and my back hurts LOL
Just keep it up Darteiga.
Funny I just realized that my photo on this site that I used 7 years ago when I made this account is a railgun from quake 3.
I never could do combos in IV but in V they are pretty easy to pull and even discover your own.
I still get bodied every time I play online though, and the rare time I’m doing really well the other person rage quits.
Lol reading all of these comments is reassuring that similar situations are happening all around. The struggles of fighting games are real! It just sucks sometimes because I love everything about fighting games… I love the scene, I love talking about them, watching videos, tournaments, everything… but a lot of times it’s just not fun for me to play SFV because I get frustrated and I think a lot of that has to do with me knowing in my heart that I can beat certain people that I let just walk all over me. I think I’m just used to being good at something right off the bat but in reality that really isn’t the case… I just twist it around that way in my mind lol.
Man Shingaru, bringing up Quake 3 is reminding me of when I was in high-school and all me and my friends did was play Counter-Strike b3-5.2 (we played afterwards but those were the glory days of CS) literally from the time we got home until we went to sleep for years and we competed in clan matches. When I first started playing that game I was ASS but I worked at it and got people to help show me things I could work on and towards the end of when I was playing CS people were coming to me practically begging me to show them some stuff and work with them. I remember this one guy I was in a clan with who was pretty decent… he wanted me to help him work on long range gun 1 on 1 gun fights and we would literally just stand as far apart as we could from one another and peek in and out of cover as fast as possible and fire a few shots to try and kill the other person and in the beginning he could never touch me but after working together it became challenging doing this with him.
I just need to apply the same things to SF, the only problem is I have no friends that are into fighting games… and my brother, who I do the majority of my gaming with, could care less about fighting games even though I keep trying to get him into them. I think that is what is also making it a little harder on us… or at least me, I can’t speak for you other guys but it sounds like you do the majority of your playing online by yourself like me, I have no experienced friends that are better than me (or that play at all) to help point out some things or even just people on the same level we can just do First To’s with…
XBroken13, yea man the gold old days. I played a lil bit of CS too a while back. Anyway I am in the same boat as you, in SF4 none of my friends played it. All of them are smash players and I wasn’t that good at that game but I still played it with them, I wish they did the same with SF4. Although one of them did eventually play it and he got pretty good. I know points in SF4 dont really matter but this kid got to 3000PP in 3 months of owning SF4 AE , he did come over here for 2-3 months twice a week to play before that. But he hit a brick wall when he bought a stick, the guy was a pad player through and through coz of smash. He quit altogether coz he couldn’t make the stick work for him. I guess since he was smooth sailing in his 1st three months just bodying people, he couldn’t take losing over and over when he switched from pad to stick. I honestly thought he’d do well in tournaments coz he was catching up to me in skill and most likely gonna pass me up miles ahead. I am not a tournament player or anything but he seemed like he was gonna keep rising and head towards that direction, too bad he quit playing.
Good thing I found a group of people to play with on wednesdays for SFV, gonna meet them for the 1st time on wednesday.
The one friend I have who plays sf V with me is a scrub 
He claims he knows how to use Chun Li…But he simply doesn’t he even claimed she “has no range” So yeah i cant practice or improve from beating him 18-0 in a battle lounge. If anything id probably get worse. Its currently difficult to have sparring buddies in this game.
I am looking for tips, tricks, advice anything that will help me out.
Something that I’ve noticed when I read SF5 topics on various gaming boards is that people care way too much about winning and losing. The most important first step is to not care about losses, or wins, online, as you don’t know who you are playing. If you lost it could be because you were matched up with someone way more skilled than you, even at the same LP. Or maybe you were evenly matched, but there was some lag, or one of you got unlucky. You get the picture. Stop caring.
Additionally, match making is incredibly ineffective in these types of games at release because people haven’t played enough to settle at their appropriate level, and the continuous influx of new players that start at 0 LP doesn’t help matters either. In many games you play some kind of placement matches before given an initial rank, but nothing like that happens here. If Daigo went online right now, you could end up playing him.
A second point is that just playing the game is a very ineffective way of learning it. In any competitive game or sport, there’s “playing” and “practicing”. Obviously, to get better at football, you wouldn’t just play full football matches every day, even if you could without destroying your body. The people that just play a few times a week are doing it for fun or exercise, not to improve in any serious way. You probably would improve by just playing, but it wouldn’t be very effective compared to also introducing some practicing.
Practicing usually involves repeatedly doing some aspect of a game. In real sports that’s usually called a “drill”. The coach makes the players run through these drills many times so that they rapidly improve this particular aspect of their game. Let’s say that a player encounters the situation that’s equivalent to the drill once per game. If that’s the case, and you play 50 games per year, it would take you one whole year to practice this aspect 50 times. If you instead ran the same scenario as a drill during a practice session, you could perhaps get the same practice in over the course of a week. That’s the power of practice vs. playing.
In Street Fighter, a common scenario is having to anti air an opponent that jumps at you. Let’s say that this happens a few times round. Including loading times, a 2-3 round game might take you 5 minutes. At best you can then practice your anti air maybe 100 times per hour. That doesn’t account for players that may not jump at all, or any number of issues that could happen. It’s probably a better idea to practice anti airs by designing a drill in training mode where you just record the dummy jumping around, and then try to anti air it repeatedly. That way you could get hundreds, or maybe even a thousand, reps in over an hour.
To give you a simple example of this from my beginner level playing. I kept getting killed by these reckless players that just refused to stop doing high damaging, but very unsafe moves. A classic example of this is Ken’s fierce dragon punch. I started blocking more, and they started missing, but I always panicked after the block and couldn’t punish them properly. I ended up maybe jabbing them out of the air, or landing a single kick or whatever. So, I went into training mode and recorded the dummy dragon punching. I then drilled a simple 250 damage punish that I could do with 99% consistency. Those players now get completely blown up, and all it took was like 30 minutes of practicing.
With this in mind, getting better is just matter of identifying what you need to practice, and actually practicing. This is where playing against other people comes in. Decide to play say 10 games online. After each round, write down why you lost. It could look something like this:
round 1: I had opportunities to anti air, but I panicked and couldn’t get the move out in time.
round 2: I anti aired, but I chose the wrong move and my DP missed.
round 3: I could see opportunities to punish moves, but only did very minimal damage.
round 4: I got confused by Karin’s attacks and she just kept hitting me and my blocking failed.
round 5: I felt that I could punish this Ken, but I picked the wrong moves.
Then go to training mode and pick one of these reasons you lost and design a drill to improve it. You can’t anti air because your dragon punch is shit? Do 1,000 dragon punches against a dummy jumping at you. Can’t do damage when the opponent fucks up? Practice some combos until you can do them many times in a row without fucking up. Don’t understand why Karin keeps shitting all over you? Activate the CPU and try to block everything and see where there’s opportunities to get attacks in.
If you come across something that you find particularly difficult, you should record your progress so that you don’t get discouraged. For example, it’s hard as fuck a beginner to do a long combo and then cancel that into the Critical Art. Unless you’re some savant, it’ll take a while to learn something like that, and you may not feel like you are getting better at all. Instead of focusing on learning this now, decide to just get 50 “reps” in. E.g. you try the combo 50 times on each side and record how many times you were successful. This might be 0, or 2, or whatever. The next day you do the same thing. Over time you’ll probably see this number improve.
To be honest I could care less about wins more so I just want to be a damn good player, iron sharpens iron brah. I was just looking for ways to get better and stumbled upon this site and immediately had that “where have you been all my life feeling”. Gradually improving is the most important thing to me right now and I am determined to give SFV my all. One of my SF idols is Maximillian Dood and I want to beat him one day, in order to get there I have to train like crazy.
Thanks for the advice too.
I am starting over completely from scratch with this game. All through Street Fighter IV’s era I was egotistical. Felt like I was a “pro” or a veteran and didn’t need to keep up with the tutorials available on the internet and the discussions being made here. I was wrong.
So I’m starting over from the very, very beginning, and turning my nose up at nothing. I even watched Gootecks’s video about how to hold a controller and press the buttons. It’s all about filling in the gaps.
And it feels really good. There were holes in my game for years that I knew about but ignored because I could get away with it by relying on old tricks. No more. This time I’m going to do it right.
I am struggling I must admit, I’m new to the fighter genre but have a very basic knowledge on how to play as ryu as I played sf2 many years ago as a kid (ie how to dragon punch etc). I’ve played nothing but ryu since release, I have the guide too so I can practice combos etc but putting all that in my brain and trying to remember it all during the heat of battle is near on impossible for me.
I have a few wins but only against very low level opponents, as soon as I come up against someone of any skill I struggle.
I’m worried that this just might not be the game for me, I love the way it plays and how it looks but how much time do I put in before I say enough is enough I’m just not going to ever be any good at this?
Really, you could probably make bronze just by having these simple plans for your character:
-How to jump in
-How to approach on the ground
-How to keep them away (or stay in, if you’re Gief/Mika or something)
-How to land lows/throws, maybe overheads and heavies
-How to hit them when they jump in
If you know these 5 things, you have a great foundation. Even if you’re like “wow I suck at grounded approach”, at least you’re aware of that limit and can try to play around not coming in that way. The biggest trap I’m seeing in the rookie and bronze tiers, as a FANG player, are guys who jump way too much and become telegraphed, and guys who are super hesitant to do shit and just get steamrolled. Being able to read your opponent’s habits and force them out of their comfort zone is also a really good strategic advantage. Just food for thought.
Just want to say that since my last post I’ve downloaded the “from masher to master” ebook and it’s helped me no end. Last night was the first time I’ve actually won more than I lost.
It teaches the fundimentals which is just what I needed, no longer am I hitting buttons for no reason, everything I do now has a purpose.
dude im a MK player pretty good at it ,just bought a mini fightstick and got SFV i suck sooooo bad like
all i can do is 3 hit combo into a special or ultra lol keep practising i remember i used to suck at mkx too but good now
just takes time but right now im in the same boat as you man just dont give up think of it this way the better you get at the game
the more fun it will be
i find that the original announcement trailer for SFV is still pretty inspiring and motivational. I always watch it when im down from loses/fuck ups. Then work on my fights from replays or watch some training videos of my character.
I beat a couple guys yesterday, but the most rewarding/frustrating thing were my losses. I am trying my hardest to main F.A.N.G but I stink So bad with him, I stink with just about everybody I pick. I’m going to continue to practice and learn to develop my overall game but sometimes it gets ridiculous.