athletic competition !> intellectual compeition, that’s true.
However video games != intellectual competition.
The closest you’ll get to an intellectual practice in a video game is starcraft or civilization.
To think Street Fighter is anywhere near a intellectual competition is absurd.
It’s more than a feeliiiiing… :rock:
quake.
At high level play it’s arguable for street fighter. Outside of high level play though I think it’s nearly all reaction based play.
i know. the last bit of what i said about athletic was sorta supposed to be a joke. i agree that all forms of competition should be respected, but videogames are no more a sport than chess. its more of a hobby, that can become your passion. like golf, minus the millions of dollars in earnings.
that is not to say that it is any less respectable, than “real” sports. dont get too defensive towards what im saying tho. there are other competitive fields that are widely accepted as sport, which i totally disagree with (the classification). such as bowling, (car)racing, golf. all respectable fields of competition, but not sport
“Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.”
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Fighting games are much more exciting to watch/play than your average FPS IMO. So, I’d say they make a much better “sport”. A sweeping generalization? Yes, but I feel it’s the truth personally. I’ve played alot of popular FPS games and they come off as more of a casual endeavor than attempting to master a good fighting game. Plus, as somebody mentioned on the first page, it can often seem that there are far too many variables in most typical FPS games for it to be seriously called a test of skill.
And I suppose you know what high level SF play is like? I don’t either mind you, but come on it sounds absurd for you to simply dismiss the level of mental capacity needed to play SF at Justin Wong or Daigo’s level. Seriously, this is why fighting games aren’t as respected as they should be, because the average person doesn’t grasp the level of dedication/skill needed to actually play them at the highest of calibur.
The sad thing is I don’t blame these people either really, because before I got into fighting games seriously I was under the same stupid impression that this type of play wasn’t a big deal just because “they aren’t doing moves I couldn’t do”. As if that’s all SF is about.:rolleyes:
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Look, of course there are mindgames in fighting games, but to sit there and say that it’s an intellectual competition say on the level of chess is just retarded. Rock, paper, scissors would be considered a mind game, but not a highly intellectual competition. Fighting games are just a more evolved form of that. I’m not saying that intellect doesn’t play a part in it, just not as much as you guys are saying.
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Videogames aren’t a sport. The only people who even try to argue that it is a sport are people who aren’t athletic or weren’t very good. Of course you can find a definition of “sport” that will say that it’s just “something that’s competitive”, but let’s be serious, please. I can guarantee that at least 99% of you weren’t trying to say that video games were a sport 10yrs ago. But, nobody is saying that video games are not competitive nor deserves any credit because it’s not a sport. We’re just saying that it’s not a sport. Simple. Poker is not a sport and it draws in a very huge following and is respected by many, including myself.
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There’s a lot of bias towards fighting games here which is understandable seeing that this is shoryuken. If you honestly think that fighting games are the most competitive and most watchable, you’re living inside a bubble. I’ve always loved fighting games, but I realized at a young age that is wasn’t accepted by the masses. Too much execution. People just want to be able to pick up a game and be good in a couple hours. There’s nothing wrong with that either, but to say that FPS’s don’t take any skill means that you probably were never able to compete at a higher level in one.
Well I’m not trying to claim SF is a sport either, that’d be the same as calling chess a sport. They can both be great tests of skill, but they don’t fall into the category of “sport”. And I can accept the idea that SF’s not quite on the level of chess, but I’d say any fighting game worth a damn can be grounds for “intellectual competition”.
They show poker all the time on ESPN?
FPS games take skill but at the end of the day, they aren’t fun to watch. It’s not like “Noobslayer1337 got his hands on da rocket launcher! That shit is so pringles! GET HYYYYYPE!!” RTS, however can be very entertaining after the first couple minutes of a given game.
Arguing about whether video games are a sport or not is kind of silly because you will always have people on both sides of the argument. Why? Because honestly, both sides are right. By pure definition, fighting games are a sport, FPS are a sport, RTS are a sport, etc. By common [mis]conception of the word sport in America if not the world, none of those are a sport.
This argument has been going on about tons of things in the last decade. Everything from card games, to video games, to drifting cars. Both parties are technically right.
In the end, jumping down someone’s throat for calling something that is competitive a sport is just plain stupid and frankly, wrong. It’s all about perspective.
Alright, I know this is like, over two weeks old and all that but I haven’t been around SRK for a while so forgive me for responding to this so late.
There’s a certain advantage of inbalance and I myself actually prefer a game that is atleast somewhat inbalanced to one that has achieved the impossible zen of “perfect” balance. Though at the professional level it may get boring to see Ryu vs Sagat every match (which actually if you’ve watched the evo finals is entirely untrue) therein lies the idea and challenge that these two characters are better than others. How do people feel when Mike Ross’s Honda beats Magus (was it Haunts?) using Sagat despite the steep tier gap? Everyone goes nuts. How do I personally feel when in Blazblue my Hakumen defeats a V-13 player despite the massive disadvantage I have? I flip shit. You see, inbalance creates that underdog factor and everyone loves the underdogs. I mean, there’s a fine line when dealing with a “balanced inbalance” I suppose. O.Sagat for example defeats like, what, half the cast of ST easy? But Sf4 Sagat isn’t near that bad. He’s just a challenge that can be overcome if you try hard enough.
On the topic of Fighting Games become all TV like, if it were ever to happen (it won’t) inbalance is just gonna boost that underdog factor like I mentioned. IF these games became mainstream (they won’t), these are gonna be the matches people are gonna talk about.
Eh, don’t rule that stuff out. Anything is possible.
Well yeah, I’m pretty positive it’ll never come to be but who knows, stranger things have happened. If ten or fifteen years from now I’m watching EVO on ESPN I’ll eat my words but right now I just don’t see it.
I know the feeling… :lame:
your playing the wrong FPS games in the wrong way.
Empty statement.
That’s an empty statement, because they show WWE on SCI-FI. We all know that wrestling is not science fiction at all.
If you’re seriously basing your argument on the fact that something is shown on a particular channel then you’re just not as smart as I gave you credit for.
CSI is shown on Spike, but it isn’t considered a man’s show. Poker is shown on ESPN and it’s not a sport, and I make money off of poker on a regular basis. Girls Gone Wild is shown on Comedy Central, but it’s not a comedy nor is Comedy Central an infomercial channel. See where I’m going?
I know you have more sense than that. Just show it, ok?
lol Saying a man has a nice haircut doesnt make you gay…right? RIGHT?!
Nobody really looked at this guy’s link. Look at this:
http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/recognized/index_uk.asp
Recognized list of sports by the International Olympic Comittee.
Chess?
Bridge?
If these are sports, what would stop a Video Game from being a sport?
because if athletes are not flat out better than normal people, some folks are going to get their perception of reality challenged.