MK9 Tier List discussion thread

If you think Skarlet is beatable you aren’t playing one who knows why she is broke. She basically can spam projectiles to a degree that make’s o. sagat jealous. She can also dash cancel her projectile into block or anti-airs to protect herself. Is she beatable … kinda, but she’s broke to the point someone who properly knows how to use her will rape the shit out of you unless your Jade, Smoke, Raiden or Lao pretty much for free. On the upside doing this all perfectly isn’t incredibly easy and really most of the wins you get against a skarlet are from when they mess up more than from any real openings. Other zoners really can’t outprojectile her so it’s really the characters that can just bypass zoning that have a chance.

JC beats anyone without an amazing zoning game almost straightup, and he can win against zoners with a little luck getting in. He’s like the vanilla zangief of MK, lol. Definately high tier, but he has some questionable matchups for whether he is top.

From what Tom Brady said JC is pretty much OP, people just don’t know his shit. It was in the show where he said something like “Best believe if we showed NRS what JC has he’ll get nerfed”.

I think raiden is like bison not because of the moves. He has no bad match-ups. Kind of anti-metagame char. Idk how good the dlc char are going to turn out but I know i’m going to rock kenshi. I usually use cool char even if they aren’t my best. I think JC is like magneto mvc2. Crappy projectile (unless u ex) but great rush down game and great mobility, not to the degree of magneto. Idk why we’re comparing mk char to capcom games. Does MK even have like bulky health char? There are no extreme 1 sided chars.

I main Smoke :smiley: so she usually gets stomped, but yeah I’ve seen some nasty Skarlets here and there. Dash cancel is way too good

According to Tom Brady, Mileena has no bad match ups and is better than Kitana. She’s a reactionary character, if you throw out random teleport kicks or rolls you’ll lose. she is best at range with ground sais and instant air sais, if someone tries to get around her zoning, or throw a fireball back, then use teleport kick which puts them in a stagger state allowing for more mix-ups, or use roll for a free combo.

High level Mileena’s scare me more than any Raiden/Laos out there tbh. I got demolished by a couple the other day, in part from lack of knowledge on the matchup but also her retarded corner frame traps… hard to get out.

And it looks like they’ve discovered new Raiden/Jax block infinites… fucking God NRS. Let’s hope they ban any gamebreaking bullshit as much as possible when EVO rolls in or it will kill this game dead competitively

The Raiden and Jax block infs are so-so…they are very good, but both require you to get an opponent to stand, and both have escapable points.

Speaking of Jax…this character is very underlooked. Do not let this fucker corner you. You will eat frame traps for days, and then get randomly set up for an EX GP combo.

Y’know I don’t play this game, but every other post is a different character being complete and utter bullshit. No Sarcasm: that sounds pretty awesome actually.

He has 100% damage EX GP corner combos :confused:

That’s pretty much what it is, for the most part.

Why the hell is subzero considered by most
top 8 in the game. he can’t compete with teleporting
characters.

If your character can block or crouch then he can compete with teleporting characters lol.

Also, Ice Clone is a better friend than Google. :slight_smile:

no tourney results are better than google. what’s a recent tourney that a sub got top 3 at. Brady dropped him for Lao rightfully so. all i see is reptile and Laos and some random characters. also raiden is to high he never performs well at tourney.

Raiden seems like a beast in this game… I get beat by him a lot.

I would say the following. REO’s tier list is pefect otherwise in my opinion.

Upper Top Tier: Kung Lao
Top Tier: Cyrax, Kabal, Raiden, Reptile

I dislike nerfs, but in order for the game to be balanced, Kung Lao needs one additional nerf on d,f+1. The character makes the game stale at higher levels of play because of d,f+1 and his versatility. I think the main problem is d,f+1. You cannot have a 6 frame anti-air launching special attack in a primarily offensive oriented game. I believe d,f+1 is so good that if given to a low tier character such as Quan Chi, he would immediately become a top tier character. Furthermore, Cyrax’s 75%+ combos have to be reduced and Raiden’s d,b+2 traps have to be removed. Reptile’s enhanced force ball glitch has got to go too. Kabal is fine the way he is. I think he represents well what is acceptable of a top tier character in this game. Once these changes are established, the game will be very balanced. The game will die if it comes down to the same 3-4 characters at higher levels of play. It would not surprise me if this year’s Evo has abundant Kung Lao, Reptile, and Cyrax players.

ice clone.

^^ what he said.

Against teleporters, I spam ice clones and stand in front of them instead of behind them. Lots of teleporters, teleport right into the clone. Yes, having the ice clone behind you isn’t as useful as in front of you, but at least it prevents them from teleporting and also prevents them from jump punching over you on rushdown.

Lol at a tier list with S, A+ and A.

I skimmed through this thread, probably too early to ask because I don’t think anyone’s figured out the DLC characters yet and Freddy’s a week away but what are some really broken shit that’s still in the game? I’m just hearing Raiden and Kung Lao come up a lot. It looks like the rest of the cast is very solid and can all do something.

Jax being low tier really gets on my nerves.