Because no one wants to explore…most people are just bandwagoning whatever is known about certain characters. I played REO a few weeks ago, and some of the stuff I’ve seen from certain characters…good lord. We even wonder why some of these characters are NOT used at all and why some characters are so underrated.
Which chars are the cheapest in the game?
Who has the trickiest gimmicks?
Granted I don’t play in tournaments just online and with friends in person I agree with most of your rankings except with a few changes:
S: Raiden, Cyrax, Kung Lao, Ermac
A: Johnny Cage, Reptile, Smoke Nightwolf, Sub-Zero
B: Mileena, Liu Kang, Sonya Blade, Kabal, Scorpion, Jade, Sektor, Noob Saibot, Kitana, Cyber Sub-Zero
C: Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Kano, Sindel
D: Jax, Stryker, Sheeva, Baraka
Sub-Zero and Nightwolf are top tier. This isn’t debatable.
Fair enough. I just don’t think they dominate as much as Kung Lao, Raiden and Ermac do.
Ermac doesn’t dominate…he just is easy to pick up.
not on Brady’s List and thats the only one that truly matters at this point.
Brady’s list is garbage I’m sorry 12 S+ characters is some fisher price my first tier list bs. How can anyone follow these character rankings when no one has made a chart breaking down the matches individually per character.
Nerf Ermac’s damage, most of his combos except maybe those that start with B1, 2, F1 (We Win) are damn easy and do too much for what they are.
Also, nerf telegrabs close in your face -air- range, it shouldn’t take out a enemy in the air at point blank range.
With those done, give him a decent combo overhead.
And what’s the point of his f+1, 1, 3 (Mysterious Mash)? LOL.
I’m not seeing Nightwolf as top tier. How does he counter rushdown?
Sure he’s got Shoulder Dash, but what else?
Shang Tsung, Sub-Zero and Kano are going to be the toughest characters to deal with for sure. Those 3 characters have almost 0 bad matchups right now. So they’re the top 3 of God tier in my book.
His list is not garbage. It’s just strange like REO’s list.
It’s true they have the majority of characters in S and A+ tier. Which is weird and very unlikely. I mean how can mid tier possibly be a minority? Doesn’t make sense to me. But Tom’s list still looks accurate for the most part.
Hum… hum… not sure if you are serious here.
Shoulder + Lighting is one of the laziest and most effective mixup in the game. He has a non-physical anti-air launcher. He easily shuts down all zoners with reflect. He has good damaging combos and safe blockstrings. Good trap potential with F3, 1, 2. Good sweep, fast uppercut and overhead. Good enhanced moves and good x-ray. He’s just great all around.
Like every other character? He fuzzy guards, anti-airs, armor absorbs, uses breakers and crouch techs. That’s pretty universal.
If someone made a matchup chart and broke down the individual matchups on a ft 10 it might be easier to tier the game. Having 12 S+ tiers suggest that they go 5-5 with each other and 7-3 or better vs the rest of the cast. Unfortunately I am not in a position where I can make a chart on this game as I am still trying to understand how characters function before I can breakdown matchups
Every Nightwolf video I’ve seen where the other person has rushed has Nightwolf losing. I’ve tried him, and to me he just doesn’t have a good “get off me” attack or a “I’m running away to regain space” attack besides Shoulder. Maybe do a positive advantage block string then move away? Right now, the ideal place to me for Nightwolf is one jump away, so you can tackle if the opponent flinches, Hatchet/uppercut if the opponent jumps, etc. Getting in this spot comfortably seems to be a problem for me if I’m getting rushed all day long.
And speaking of block strings, they all hit high. Nightwolf doesn’t have many good low attacks (I believe it’s 3 or 4) and they all lead to low damage. Blocking high all day against Nightwolf seems like a great game plan, but if he goes for the lightning, just dash forward with block and punish. Wakeup lightning is the only thing to worry about, but just watch for Nightwolf raising his hands.
It seems to me that once a person learns Nightwolf’s tricks he’s easy to shut down.
There is no way that Shang, Kano and Sindel are C Tier.
In my opinion:
S: Raiden, Sub-Zero, Kung Lao, Cyrax, Ermac, Johnny Cage, Reptile, Nightwolf, Kano
A: Cyber Sub-Zero, Mileena, Kitana, Shang Tsung, Sonya, Noob, Sindel, Scorpion, Liu Kang, Kabal, Smoke
B: Jade, Sektor, Stryker, Sheeva, Baraka
C: Quan Chi, Jax
Off of what you are basing this tier list? Character ability and potential or matchup vs other characters?
Character ability and my online experience so far. 
It could change in the next weeks of course.
Im not trying to pick a fight or anything I want to have a real discussion regarding character matchups and basing tiers off of that. There are 28(29 ps3) characters in the game and you have 9 listed as S+. In your opinion what makes them S+ do you believe they would break 5-5 against each other and 7-3 or greater vs everyone else?
No problem, I want to have a real discussion too.
I think all characters I listed as S tier just have so many good options and special moves and that makes them so powerful in my eyes.
I do not believe they are all 5-5 against each other, I think Ermac vs Kung Lao for example is slightly in Ermacs favor.
But on the other hand, Ermac has some problems against Raiden, his fast teleport prevents Ermac to zone properly.
But when Ermac fights against Baraka for example, then I really do believe it is maybe 7-3 or 8-2 in Ermacs favor.
What makes Shang Tsung “god tier” besides his unbreakable fireball juggles?
I just started maining him for sh!ts and giggles and having a hard time against rushdowns. Anybody any good counters or advice?
I would like with the help of everyone be able to compile a matchup chart and from their truly determine what tiers are currently looking like. Unfortunately at the moment my play experience is limited to me playing lui Kang vs locals. But if we all contribute I feel this could be compiled and used by all